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I'm assuming these talks are not free of charge and that there is a fee. It then becomes a commercial venture IMO and should not be using the forum to advertise.
That's pathetic especially if it's for educational purposes, what about the fee's for renting a room with electric bill's and toilet facilities etc.

If folk think it's commercial they are greedy people envious people IMHO and DerekM should not charge a set price, instead he should take donation's which i expect to be more than whatever fee was charged if any.
 
it will have to be in English though as I didnt pick up any Welsh in my 4 years in Gwynedd.

Regards Derek

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I will give my bKA a nudge.

PS, has anybody a link to a bka newsletter describing Derek's talk ? ...I remember reading one somewhere.
 
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That's pathetic especially if it's for educational purposes, what about the fee's for renting a room with electric bill's and toilet facilities etc.

If folk think it's commercial they are greedy people envious people IMHO and DerekM should not charge a set price, instead he should take donation's which i expect to be more than whatever fee was charged if any.

Sorry you feel that way. Not against him doing it as I'm not against people selling beekeeping stuff but that is not allowed on the forum.
 
I'm assuming these talks are not free of charge and that there is a fee. It then becomes a commercial venture IMO and should not be using the forum to advertise.

commercial ? :rofl: :rofl: if reducing a loss is commercial then its commercial.

A typical fee is around £30 to £50 plus mileage. If we (as both elaine and myself present) have to stay overnight, we get to stay in a the luxury of a travelodge. Most of the the time we dont charge for an evening meal or breakfast. That means the fees cover the incidentals like having to find somewhere to eat at 6.30pm before the talk.

My research is self funded. The equipment for the first set of experiments and buying a few research papers cost around £900 and took about 600 hours of effort. The background research in to the bees is at least another 2000 hours, the preparation of the presentation to date must be over 200 hours. I wont add the vast amount of effort that has gone into getting the paper written and published

each presentation will be 3 to 24 hours travelling time plus 3 hours in front of people...I gets lots of questions.

if after incidental expenses are taken out of the fees, for the sake of argument lets say we on average net £10.( i doubt its that high, but lets go with that. Note:we made significant net losses on SBA and BBKA despite fees of £60).

I might present this research say 30 times taking an average of 8 hours of time each.

Then this commercial venture has taken 3000 hours to make a loss of £600.
There was never any intention to make money so I'm not disappointed.

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The next phase of my research has cost me more than £3000 so far.
Does this sound like a commercial venture? if it is that means I cant talk about my research or my views on insulation as they are my "product". That is effectively a ban
or does it sound more like a research charity
 
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Forget the word Commercial.. use Comical instead for the reason it was mentioned. Hahahahahahahaha

If i where ever to go to one of these talk's that DerekM apparently makes Millions of pounds from i would still donate , simply because He and She is helping folk tenfold .
 
Didnt realise i wss giing to get shot down...it wad my first attempt I will take on board
I'm sure adding 50mm waterproof insulation will stop Alot of wind chill and heat wicking from wet side walls
So we are going to have to keep them on in summer tus shame I like seeing woid hives
 
Sorry you feel that way. Not against him doing it as I'm not against people selling beekeeping stuff but that is not allowed on the forum.

I have bought bee's from the forum, folk sell and buy product's from the forum, there actually a for sale and wants section on this forum, am i missing something.
 
I'm assuming these talks are not free of charge and that there is a fee. It then becomes a commercial venture IMO and should not be using the forum to advertise.

Haha pisser just fell off my chair, I suppose everyone is free to voice there opinion.
IMO Derek's posts make for good reading.
 
It is possible to make a loss in any business.

makes Millions of pounds from
Can you now point to where I said that or should I just consider your post as commical?
Have you read the forum rules?

Derek, I'm not really interested in a breakdown, you accept money for something you advertise on the forum, that's breaking the rules IMO. Sorry if it upsets you but that's the rules as I see it.

Edit: Just saw your other post obviously you haven't.

If you buy bees off a forum member, take a look under their name ;)
 
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Didnt realise i wss giing to get shot down...it wad my first attempt I will take on board
I'm sure adding 50mm waterproof insulation will stop Alot of wind chill and heat wicking from wet side walls
So we are going to have to keep them on in summer tus shame I like seeing woid hives
You never did get shot down me thinks, i think your wrong doings where politely mentioned, this is my first year also, i have read long and hard 3 year's and more before i actually got my first hive, most of what i have read has gone out of the window since i joined the forum, however some of the not so usefull junk i have read start's too mean something now, Soooo hang on in there the light at the end of the tunnel is beyond the solar system..:hairpull:
 
It is possible to make a loss in any business.

makes Millions of pounds from
Can you now point to where I said that or should I just consider your post as commical?
Have you read the forum rules?

Derek, I'm not really interested in a breakdown, you accept money for something you advertise on the forum, that's breaking the rules IMO. Sorry if it upsets you but that's the rules as I see it.

Are you female.. if not you have no sense of humor.. lol
 
Where has Derek advertised? I take it you're not a fan of insulation Swarm?
 
Are you Sexist? Are you American? I do have a sense of humour. We ain't talking millions we are talking forum rules or should they only apply to those who make a profit?

Yes, not someone trying to promote the health of bees via education. I'd agree if he had 1000 sheets of Reticel to shift!
 
Are you Sexist? Are you American? I do have a sense of humour. We ain't talking millions we are talking forum rules or should they only apply to those who make a profit?
The green eyed monster all-way's rear's its ugly head, i'm a bit long in the tooth to be bothered by such jealousy, But if it makes your little cockles warm crack on tying to be little a good fellow.
 
I'm intrigued by the small "tags" attached to some of the threads. Probably a web site generated thing. If you click on New posts and look close to the line to the right of the thread title there is sometimes (not always) a small tag....for instance for this thread "FAO Derek" the label comes up as "delusional pseudoscience". Bee boxes and Heat comes up as "gas Leak, Pseudoscience", "What did you do in the apiary today comes up as "follies, pseudoscience".
An interesting category labeling.
 

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