Evolution

[Norton]

They all look like they are high!

 

[REDWOOD]

Suzi, following anything blindly is madness. I can only conclude humans are evolving into sheep.

find the facts for your self do not let other people influence you, taking advice from a mad man will only make you mad

 

[REDWOOD]

last week,
Science sent a Human to the edge of space, and got him back down to earth safely
religion had a girl shot in the head for wanting an education

A creationist would say god created space and man and also said thou should not kill

 

[Skyhook]

A creationist would say god created space and man and also said thou should not kill

Curious that monotheism started with a massacre, when Moses came down from mounr Sinai with the ten commandments and found Aaron and his followers worshipping the golden calf he fell on them and around 3,000 were killed .

 

[REDWOOD]

Curious that monotheism started with a massacre, when Moses came down from mounr Sinai with the ten commandments and found Aaron and his followers worshipping the golden calf he fell on them and around 3,000 were killed .

Looked to me as though he was having a bit of a bad day, just think he stuck his neck out for those guys and what did they do worshiped a false idle, I bet he said man was quite primitive in those days, they have now evolved and understand things a bit better

 

[victor meldrew]

Curious that monotheism started with a massacre, when Moses came down from mounr Sinai with the ten commandments and found Aaron and his followers worshipping the golden calf he fell on them and around 3,000 were killed .

That Moses killing 3,000 by falling on them! Must have been a hell of a big guy ?
VM

 

[Skyhook]

Looked to me as though he was having a bit of a bad day, just think he stuck his neck out for those guys and what did they do worshiped a false idle, I bet he said man was quite primitive in those days, they have now evolved and understand things a bit better

Yes, like evolution, and the difference between facts and old myths.

 

[REDWOOD]

Yes, like evolution, and the difference between facts and old myths.

proven by science once again
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1557124/Tiny-tablet-provides-proof-for-Old-Testament.html#

 

[REDWOOD]

and another, and we thought that global warming is only happening to us lol
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...l-plagues-really-happened-say-scientists.html

 

[REDWOOD]

last one for now
http://www.earthage.org/EarthOldorYoung/scientific_evidence_for_a_worldwide_flood.htm

 

[rayz_x]

This thread has probably gone so far off topic it should be relocated...but while it is here.

The story about Darwin converting to Christianity on his deathbed is now known to be a myth invented by someone who was not there Lady Hope (Elizabeth Cotton). (Google Darwin Christian myth for explanation)

There may be some things in the bible that are based on real events. I don't think anyone disputes that. This still doesn't prove either that the bible is the word of a 'God' or that creation is fact.

Ray

 

[tonybloke]

good, well informed post, rayz_x

welcome to the forum, didn't see you sneak in

 

[PBee]

good, well informed post, rayz_x

welcome to the forum, didn't see you sneak in

Thats because he just appeared

 

[Skyhook]

proven by science once again
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1557124/Tiny-tablet-provides-proof-for-Old-Testament.html#

Few people dispute that there are real people named in the bible- the old testament is a more-or-less idealised history of the jews, in which many of there actions are justified by religion. Doesn't make the religion true.

 

[Skyhook]

and another, and we thought that global warming is only happening to us lol
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...l-plagues-really-happened-say-scientists.html

Yes- an article showing how a series of 'miracles' were in fact down to the weather.

 

[Skyhook]

last one for now
http://www.earthage.org/EarthOldorYoung/scientific_evidence_for_a_worldwide_flood.htm

Oh dear.

Just two questions- if the globe flooded, where's the water now? And given that there are around 10,000,000 animal species in the world, many not found in the middle east, just how did Noah save all the world's animals, and in a boat less than 150m long?

The story of Moses is generally reckoned to be a re-hashing of the story of Utnapishtim in the epic of Gilgamesh, dating from around 2,000 BC, where the details of the ark are similar, but it is due to bickering between the gods- Enlil trying to destroy humanity, and Ea trying to frustrate him.

The origin can be looked for in Mesopotamia, where flooding was a regular occurence, and anyone with the resources would put their family and livestock (or at least breeding pairs) on a raft until the flood subsided.

By the way, how are your bees?

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[Hivemaker.]

Just two questions- if the globe flooded, where's the water now?
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It evaporated, the rest is stored in giant cacti or been drank by the fish..

 

[Ely]

Suzi, following anything blindly is madness. I can only conclude humans are evolving into sheep.

Ask any 'x-factor' fan. With the amount of sheep I see everyday, it is a wonder that I don't have narcolepsy.

 

[PBee]

Few people dispute that there are real people named in the bible- the old testament is a more-or-less idealised history of the jews, in which many of there actions are justified by religion. Doesn't make the religion true.

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[blackcavebees]

Oh dear.

Just two questions- if the globe flooded, where's the water now? And given that there are around 10,000,000 animal species in the world, many not found in the middle east, just how did Noah save all the world's animals, and in a boat less than 150m long?

The story of Moses is generally reckoned to be a re-hashing of the story of Utnapishtim in the epic of Gilgamesh, dating from around 2,000 BC, where the details of the ark are similar, but it is due to bickering between the gods- Enlil trying to destroy humanity, and Ea trying to frustrate him.

The origin can be looked for in Mesopotamia, where flooding was a regular occurence, and anyone with the resources would put their family and livestock (or at least breeding pairs) on a raft until the flood subsided.

By the way, how are your bees?

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Oh dear x 10

Broad brush stokes here and, having studied Gilgamesh as part of my first degree 20 years ago, you need to extend your research and not just accept what someone might write in a book, or on a forum ...

Bottom line is our human ego is often much bigger than our understanding. Science has come a long way, but still is far far from knowing everything. 500 years ago most scientists held to a Geocentric model of the universe until Copernicus came along (although some astrophysicists tried to float it again in 2010 ), 400 years ago they worked out that the heart was the centre of the human circulatory system, Doctors didn't wash their hands after surgery until 150 years ago - they thought gangrene and infection came from bad air. The double helix DNA model was only published 60 years ago, There is so much we don't know, yet! I personally find it arrogant at best when folks are so definitive about subjects that we really know little about. I am a Christian, I believe the Bible, and I read it. I have no trouble accepting it's teaching. It says that Christ died for my sins. It doesn't say that the earth is 6000 years old or 4.5 billion years old, men say that. If we are going to take a definitive view, we need to be sure of our footing as in 50 years we might have serious egg on our faces, depending how science develops. I have some some serious misgivings about evolution as it is packaged and rammed down our throats and the way anyone who questions the party line is a nut job or a religious zealot isn't helpful. Gaps in the fossil record at least should caution us from defending an absolute position, for we may live to find out that the earth is indeed not flat nor the centre of the universe.

As an aside, I'm not interested in debating this any further, as it is all blah blah blah, really. Got some BEE READING MATERIAL for the winter and I'm learning the mandolin, bluegrass style.