Do you have VSH Queens

[jenkinsbrynmair]

No thank you - happy to let the readers decide whether your proposition is true or not.

it wasn't aimed at you, or was it? multiple identities by any chance?

 

[Erichalfbee]

@bazdmoore @Bazzer
You two are the same person. Which forum name would you like to retain? The other will have to go

 

[bazdmoore]

@bazdmoore @Bazzer
You two are the same person. Which forum name would you like to retain? The other will have to go

Sure - logged in from 2 different devices - given the trolling that goes on I will retain @Bazzer

 

[Erichalfbee]

Sure - logged in from 2 different devices - given the trolling that goes on I will retain @Bazzer

You can log in from two different devices in the same name. Both accounts have different email addresses so I might hazard that they were created as separate identities on purpose ?

 

[Ian123]

Just wanted to check. Was the other bloke a scientist as well. Just for clarification of course

 

[madasafish]

Sure - logged in from 2 different devices - given the trolling that goes on I will retain @Bazzer

My Ignore list is growing.

 

[Ian123]

Sure - logged in from 2 different devices - given the trolling that goes on I will retain @Bazzer

Trolling what trolling, since when is asking for justification of claims, examples or precedent trolling in any form! Unless of course they can’t find any.

 

[Ian123]

Never heard of him

The question should be had bazzer heard of him!!….sorry couldn’t resist

 

[Bazzer]

My Ignore list is growing.

bazdmoore can now be safely ignored - simple issue with forgotten passwords

 

[Erichalfbee]

Ok that’s sorted so can we get back to bees? Thanks

 

[Ian123]

bazdmoore can now be safely ignored - simple issue with forgotten passwords

If you forget your password you can’t post, it’s when you get them mixed up and post from the wrong account embarrassing issues ariseDont worry your not the first and doubt you’ll be the last!

 

[Curly green finger's]

Actually the reason we historically have so much heather is that grouse eat the fresh stems and the aristocracy loved to spend their holidays shooting grouse
https://www.gwct.org.uk/research/species/birds/red-grouse/Sheep and deer are the reason we have so few upland trees.

That and estates over the years clearing trees from all over.
Back to purple springs to mind.
I think I would prefer upland trees growing

 

[Robinredcar]

I disagree, natural selection would mean that vsh bees in the wild ( lost swarms etc) would have a greater chance of survival. My drones if their lucky will impact on the local population albeit by a small margin over time if enough keepers buy into it and go vsh then the Gean pool will be affected just as our black bee has been mongralised by Buckie’s and Carolina etc
It’s a numbers game.
The question I suppose I am really asking is weather or not productivity is good enough for people to want vsh queens . Or would they rather stick with what they have and treat

What about the wild populations that have survived varroa pretty much on their own, surely we should be trying to select from them over buying in more bees?

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

What about the wild populations that have survived varroa pretty much on their own,

where?

 

[Robinredcar]

where?

Wales, Scotlan, Ireland mainly where the black bees havnt been diluted? Starting from close to native stock and not treating incures heavy losses but also forces the normally undesirable hygienic trait according to research i watched on the national honey show YouTube channel, I can find the link if you've not already seen it?

 

[Repwoc]

the normally undesirable hygienic trait

Why is it undesirable?

 

[Erichalfbee]

Yes please. Can I have the link, Robin?
I’ve mentioned research on feral colonies showing they were descended from neighbouring beekeepers but when I do bring it up somebody always tells me it was a phd thesis and not peer reviewed.

 

[Robinredcar]

Why is it undesirable?

In nature it's undesirable because it wastes energy that could be put into reproduction, that's why it only seems to shine through in dier times. In kept bees it reduces honey production.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Wales, Scotlan, Ireland mainly where the black bees havnt been diluted?

So guessing rather than knowing?

 

[Robinredcar]

Yes please. Can I have the link, Robin?
I’ve mentioned research on feral colonies showing they were descended from neighbouring beekeepers but when I do bring it up somebody always tells me it was a phd thesis and not peer reviewed.

I'm not sure the British seminar I watched was a PhD but I'm almost certain the one Tom Seeley produced was? I'll try find it just now for you very interesting watch.