Bulk sugar mixing help

[Angry_Mob]

How about one of these things for heating?

ebay.co.uk/itm/200L-55Gallon-240V-1000W-Silicon-Band-Drum-Heater-Oil-Biodiesel-Metal-Barrel-dgz-/370927161544?hash=item565cfb50c8:g:jlQAAOSwcu5URV3p

 

[wightbees]

I might give a honey spinner ago, can't see why that wouldn't work. Lots of good ideas here though, thanks

 

[Finman]

I might give a honey spinner ago, can't see why that wouldn't work. Lots of good ideas here though, thanks

How to get hot water.... heureca!

 

[Millet]

How to get hot water.... heureca!

Do you not have boilers over there that heat your tap water for you.

 

[wightbees]

I have hot water system in my van, I also have 500 ltr water tank in there! But will most likely make the stuff at home then transport to sites.

 

[Finman]

Do you not have boilers over there that heat your tap water for you.

We Finnish people are so practical that we solve first hot water problems and such basic things. Basic solution is sauna. We wash ourselves in sauna when we have summer cottage. 60 litre steel pot over fire, and so it happens.

 

[Beefriendly]

Yes but all that rolling around in the snow afterwards and flagellation with birch sticks....is it really necessary?

 

[Finman]

Yes but all that rolling around in the snow afterwards and flagellation with birch sticks....is it really necessary?

Nowadays I visit in swimming hall 3 times a week. IT is easier than heat up sauna. Swimming halls have saunas. I take drinking water from swimming hall's tap.

Such is life in the middle of nowhere.

Birch sticks are really good.

It is better to think all before you buy a summer cottage.

 

[Into the lions den]

You can always buy Liquid Ambrosia....it only works out at 5x the cost of your home made sugar solution.

Persistent marketing and pyramid selling.............makes Ambrosia, other than direct from source.............a VERY expensive option.

There ARE other brands equally as good... the Ambrosia vendors chuck a lot of negative marketing at other brands, a real offputting thing to me, especially as its false.

Ordered yesterday..........in the low 600's a tonne, delivered home to our base in Scotland. Cheaper if you are further south.

Its still 87p per kilo dry weight though...but no work, no mess, time to get the job done, bees look in great health and well found for winter with these products.

Easy way my Dad made up emergency feed from sugar for small hive numbers used an old Burco boiler....I still see the odd one around......put in 6 gallons of water and bring almost to the boil. Add sugar until its almost full, stir with a clean new broom handle for only a couple of minutes and its all dissolved ready to go.

There are also a huge range of commercially made cyclone mixers if you feel the wish to splash the cash.....said to be a good investment but I don't have one.

Or....as a friend does....put the water in a honey tank. Use a drill with a long shaft and a small propeller (very small unless you want a shower). Clamp it onto the edge of the tank with the shaft into the centre of the tank....add the syrup........leave it swirling until the colour goes dark (means its dissolved and the syrup is near clear)...run off into your containers and take it to the bees.

 

[Finman]

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No one talk, how to deliver 15 000 kg syrup to 500 hives here and there.

 

[Into the lions den]

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No one talk, how to deliver 15 000 kg syrup to 500 hives here and there.

Because...on this forum....its relevant to very very few people...the small scale ideas are much more what they need.

 

[Into the lions den]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-b...340747?hash=item2cc519744b:g:oAoAAOSwU4JZkutM

The very beast...you can do 35 litres of syrup at a time...maybe 3 mins after the water gets hot.

Then, when not using it for that you can do frame washing/sterilising in hot/boiling washing soda solution.

 

[Finman]

600 tonne sugar! I I were you, I would buy ready hot water from power station. You can get it as over 100C.

Perhaps power station could start to sell ready syrup.

(Somebody wanted mixing help.)

 

[Beefriendly]

Or....as a friend does....put the water in a honey tank. Use a drill with a long shaft and a small propeller (very small unless you want a shower). Clamp it onto the edge of the tank with the shaft into the centre of the tank....add the syrup........leave it swirling until the colour goes dark (means its dissolved and the syrup is near clear)...run off into your containers and take it to the bees.

Or splash some cash for a 200l creaming machine with heated tank. Add sugar and water and let it do the job for you. Plus you can use it for creaming honey por melting honey as per it's original intention.

 

[Finman]

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Why not a boat and turn the side motor inwards.

IT has bottom blug. Put a tap in it.

 

[Into the lions den]

600 tonne sugar! I I were you, I would buy ready hot water from power station. You can get it as over 100C.

Perhaps power station could start to sell ready syrup.

(Somebody wanted mixing help.)

Who on earth uses 600 tonnes of sugar? Biggest bee farm in the UK and we only use about 50 tonnes.....and apart from when I get a huge bargain (like the 4 tonnes at 10p/kg and 3 tonnes free as they were out of code) I always buy it in pre made.

Even then we did it in IBC's of hot water circulating it with honey pumps.

 

[Finman]

Who on earth uses 600 tonnes of sugar? .

IT needs 30 000 hives. Perhaps I did calculation mistake.

Who needs.... Human person consumes 30 kg in a year. We need a 20 000 people town to eate it.

 

[charlievictorbravo]

I might give a honey spinner ago, can't see why that wouldn't work. Lots of good ideas here though, thanks

Before you put the sugar in the spinner, make sure that your tap will hold back water. When washing my extractor, I noticed that there was a steady leakage of water through the closed tap although it does not leak with honey. This is a PLASTIC tap/valve.

CVB

 

[Somerford]

Persistent marketing and pyramid selling.............makes Ambrosia, other than direct from source.............a VERY expensive option.

There ARE other brands equally as good... the Ambrosia vendors chuck a lot of negative marketing at other brands, a real offputting thing to me, especially as its false.

Ordered yesterday..........in the low 600's a tonne, delivered home to our base in Scotland. Cheaper if you are further south.

Its still 87p per kilo dry weight though...but no work, no mess, time to get the job done, bees look in great health and well found for winter with these products.

Easy way my Dad made up emergency feed from sugar for small hive numbers used an old Burco boiler....I still see the odd one around......put in 6 gallons of water and bring almost to the boil. Add sugar until its almost full, stir with a clean new broom handle for only a couple of minutes and its all dissolved ready to go.

There are also a huge range of commercially made cyclone mixers if you feel the wish to splash the cash.....said to be a good investment but I don't have one.

Or....as a friend does....put the water in a honey tank. Use a drill with a long shaft and a small propeller (very small unless you want a shower). Clamp it onto the edge of the tank with the shaft into the centre of the tank....add the syrup........leave it swirling until the colour goes dark (means its dissolved and the syrup is near clear)...run off into your containers and take it to the bees.

That's how I mix my home made syrup - paddle propellor, on a heavyweight 110v drill, 25kg a time into cold or warm water and mix like hell. Amazing the strength needed to hold the propellor in place but it adds to the fun.

I also buy invert syrup not at £600 a tonne but still a very good price

KR

S

 

[wightbees]

That's a good price from what I have seen so far. Only trouble for me is the cost of getting it delivered here!