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Good to bee back: 'Extinct' British breed of honeybee found alive and well in church rafters after nearly 80 years

'British Black' species thought to have been wiped out in 1919
Thriving colony found in rafters of church
Bee species native to British isles - unlike other honeybees

By Rob Waugh

PUBLISHED: 12:20, 11 July 2012 | UPDATED: 12:20, 11 July 2012

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The rare apis mellifera mellifera or British Black honeybee are the only species of bee to have survived a strain of the Spanish flu which wiped out what was thought to be every single bee in the UK

The rare apis mellifera mellifera or British Black honeybee are the only species of bee to have survived a strain of the Spanish flu which wiped out what was thought to be every single bee in the UK

A rare 'black' honeybee which was thought to have been wiped out by a strain of Spanish flu in 1919 has been rediscovered in the rafters of a church in Northumberland.

The rare 'British Black' is much darker than other bees, and developed in Britain after the last ice age.

The bees that populate Britain today were mostly introduced from abroad - including the popular honeybee.

The rare ‘apis mellifera mellifera’ or British Black honeybee are the only species of bee to have survived a strain of the Spanish flu which wiped out what was thought to be every single bee in the UK.

Experts believed the creatures to be extinct, but a hive of the insects have been breeding for almost 100 years in the eves of a church in Northumberland.

They were discovered in the roof of Whitfield’s Holy Trinity Church after the church warden found the 19th century church littered with bees.

Conservation officer for the Bee Improvement and Bee Breeders’ Association (Bibba) Dorian Pritchard, was called in to help.

Slates were removed from the church by cutting into the roof with an electric saw, but the bees showed no signs of agitation - and no-one was stung.

Dorian first recognised the insects’ unusual dark features.
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He said: ‘They are generally a lot darker than the European bee with pale thin strips across the abdomen. It takes a specialist bee keeper to recognise them.

‘These bees were the native bees in Britain after the Ice Age but in the 1830s we started to import foreign bees.

‘An epidemic wiped out 90 per cent of the population after the First World War.’
A rare 'black' honeybee which was thought to have been wiped out by a strain of Spanish flu in 1919 has been rediscovered in the rafters of a church in Northumberland

A rare 'black' honeybee which was thought to have been wiped out by a strain of Spanish flu in 1919 has been rediscovered in the rafters of a church in Northumberland


The British Black bee is different from other bees as they developed in the UK after the ice age and when the sea filled the channel

The British Black bee is different from other bees as they developed in the UK after the ice age and when the sea filled the channel
The only surviving bees are predominantly black, with a hint of yellow, but much darker than the common bee seen across the UK

The only surviving bees are predominantly black, with a hint of yellow, but much darker than the common bee seen across the UK

The bees that had made their way into the main body of the building died - but wardens were stunned when they made their way up to the roof and stumbled upon a huge swarm of the insects.

The British Black bee is different from other bees as they developed in the UK after the last ice age.

The only surviving bees are predominantly black, with a hint of yellow, but much darker than the common bee seen across the UK.

They are ideally suited the British climate - particularly that in the North of England - and more so than the European Black bee.

The Spanish flu came to the UK in the early 20th century.

After the disaster, the country was repopulated with bees from abroad, which has led to more species of bee, including the popular honey bee.

Bee experts were called to the church in Whitfield to find a way of tackling the nest, only to realise the pesky bees could have been the rare ‘apis mellifera mellifera’ species.

A handful of dead bees were taken away from the church for examinations to confirm Dorian’s hunch that they were British black honeybees.

Plans are now being made to transfer the bees to a hive before they can be rehomed.

Although no-one connected to the church had noticed the bees, the nest is thought to have been occupied for several years.

Estate maintenance manager, Jonathan Archer said: ‘It is fascinating that these bees have possibly been here this long even though they were thought to be extinct.

‘We now hope that by moving them to a new home they will go from strength to strength with help from experts who know how to take care of them.’
 
Above.... For interest.......From the Mail 5th November.......

Just had my fly jab as would not want to become extinct!
 
This is why history is such a facinating subject. In among all the misunderstanding, misrepresentation, lies, hidden agendas, etc. there is always a grain of truth. Personally I think the British Black was wiped out by neonics back in 1919 and this is clearly just a smokescreen story.
 
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why not leave them there if they have survived that long without any outside help.....?
 
Black honeybee are the only species of bee to have survived a strain of the Spanish flu which wiped out what was thought to be every single bee in the UK

Think Madasafish has it about right in this thread....with..

I would not use the Daily Mail as a reference for anything factual. Their journalistic history does not inspire confidence in the veracity of the story.

" Bees surviving Spanish flu which wiped out every bee in the UK"

Spherical objects.

http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=19995&page=21
 
This was reported a few months back in the local news the mail has just reprinted. Its amazing how just one colony survived. Would they not be inbred if they are the only ones left?
 
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I know it's the slow season for beekeeping but it's not 1st April .. and that is where this story belongs.

Thanks for the quote HM: :)


(Fame at last: maybe the Daily Mail will quote me?):calmdown:
 
I've only being been keeping and learning about bees for just over a year now and even I know that there's not the slightest of chances that any bees, never mind British black bees and only one colony at that, could possibly remain pure bred on the British mainland since the end of ww1. Now a remote Island off Shetland or a deep high valley in Russia, and there might be a chance.
The Daily Mail.....never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
 
Here's something from the thirties. Our local beekeeper Mr Gerard was a renowned breeder of native bees. Unless of course the papers in the thirties just invented stuff too.
 
and more (I'm guessing those huge WBC type things are some sort of queen rearing hive). But Mr Gerard was obviously deluded as the black bees had died out by the thirties, apart from 1 colony hiding out in a church somewhere - I'm surprised the parishioners didn't hear those bees sneezing during services.
 
At last..... A use for my Dymo Tape machine.
 
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My knowledgr is that mellifera mellifera is German Black?

But I have read too that English and Germans humans have almost same genes.

Black bee is incomer from Africa via Gibraltar. Perhaps it is Spanish Black.
 
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But I have read too that English and Germans humans have almost same genes.

With 2 to 5% being Neanderthal content...
 
Mr Gerard was obviously deluded as the black bees had died out by the thirties, apart from 1 colony hiding out in a church somewhere
Nice cuttings. Is there a date? The text in the newspaper refers to good years in 1929 and 1934 while "hoping" for another in the cycle. That might suggest the article was written in 1938 or 9? Another good year in "the cycle" would come in handy for 2013.

I see the price for the "Eckhardt" markers is three dollars. Who was he exporting to in dollars? Canada? US?
 
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There is a small mention about a pot of gold ...... Who kept that? Blow the bees, give me the gold!
 
It's only called "the German black" in the same

As I understand it Finman there are still some keepers with these bees in Finland?

Chris

here are some.

It seems to be good on Ahvenanmaa Archipelago. Guys have made a society to save that bug, what I call Black Devil,

I had them 30 years, Varroa killed it 20 y ago.

This Archipelago is between Sweden an Finland-

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Vegetation is quite poor. There is much heather there
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