AMM queen, Buckfast colony

[Zaclangley]

Is it a mistake to introduce a mated Black Bee, AMM, into a Buckfast colony?

 

[Erichalfbee]

Buckfast are not fussy.
The other way round is more fraught.

 

[Lislarybees]

Never a mistake! Hopefully more follow your lead
I have struggled when requeening hybridised colonies with pure Amm but many factors at play from size of colony to weather conditions etc. If it’s a big colony you could make up a Nuc - introduce the native queen to that and then combine with the newspaper method into the bigger colony.

 

[Zaclangley]

Never a mistake! Hopefully more follow your lead
I have struggled when requeening hybridised colonies with pure Amm but many factors at play from size of colony to weather conditions etc. If it’s a big colony you could make up a Nuc - introduce the native queen to that and then combine with the newspaper method into the bigger colony.

Originally I thought It would improve the gene pool and possibly add to varroa resistance but concern has been expressed that it could lead to f2 aggression and after further research I am none the clearer.

 

[JamezF]

it could lead to f2 aggression

Or it might not. As far as I'm aware there's no compelling evidence that it does.

James

 

[Erichalfbee]

Or it might not. As far as I'm aware there's no compelling evidence that it does.

James

I’ve never encountered it. I keep Buckfast ( and Black bees) and everybody around me keeps Heinz

 

[alancooper]

Originally I thought It would improve the gene pool and possibly add to varroa resistance but concern has been expressed that it could lead to f2 aggression and after further research I am none the clearer.

“Add to varroa resistance”? Not so.

Originally I thought It would improve the gene pool and possibly add to varroa resistance but concern has been expressed that it could lead to f2 aggression and after further research I am none the clearer.

 

[Curly green finger's]

I’ve never encountered it. I keep Buckfast ( and Black bees) and everybody around me keeps Heinz

What baked beans

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Is it a mistake to introduce a mated Black Bee, AMM, into a Buckfast colony?

No - the other way around can cause acceptance issues but AM|M queen to Buckies should be OK

Originally I thought It would improve the gene pool and possibly add to varroa resistance

why should it?

but concern has been expressed that it could lead to f2 aggression

Why - another myth spread by the usual suspects

 

[madasafish]

You can requeen anything if you use a press in queen cage on top of emerging brood.. And wait long enough. And the bees don't burrow underneath and through the comb to reach the queen.. But chances with a resident AMM Q in an AMM colony and introducing another type ? Low.

As far as improving varroa resistance? About as likely as finding a cure for greed and envy.

 

[Erichalfbee]

You'

What baked beans

You're too young to recall the old advertising logo

 

[Garry R]

You'


You're too young to recall the old advertising logo

Probably 57 years too young

 

[Erichalfbee]

M

Probably 57 years too young

It's still on their ketchup bottle

 

[Curly green finger's]

M

It's still

What’s the meaning of saying it in bee terms ?
Variety of different types?

 

[Erichalfbee]

Uncertain ancestry. A mix of all sorts

 

[hemo]

Hybrid local bees are a Heinz variety/mix just the same as x breed local mutts or felines.

 

[Dodge]

Uncertain ancestry. A mix of all sorts

I always thought Heinz bees were specially bred / modified by Bibba or Monsanto for pollinating Tomatoe plants in green houses.