Allotment rules

[Amari]

Can you sell honey from bees from an allotments ? so is they are point, in putting bees on an allotment?
because most agreements, state produce is for family only and not for sale...
" Tenants must not sell any produce from their plots " - so this would include honey?

The hives might be on a plot but the crop is gathered from elsewhere.

 

[Dishmop]

I heard one allotment holder say that they are not to allowed to sell from the site, on the site.

 

[Dishmop]

The hives might be on a plot but the crop is gathered from elsewhere.

Still produced in the hives though.. as per Regents Park Honey. Doesnt matter where the bees collected from.

 

[alldigging]

http://www.organiclea.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/sellingallotmentproduce.pdf

Allotment Gardeners Can Sell their Surplus Crop
There is however, no restriction on the distribution, by sale or otherwise,
of a certain proportion of the plotholder’s crop. Geoff Stokes, secretary
of the National Society of Allotment & Leisure Gardeners (NSALG) has stated
in a recent article: “there seems to be no justification in preventing
[an allotment] tenant from selling or otherwise disposing of ‘surplus’
produce”3. This view has been approved by Paul Clayden, author of The
Law of Allotments (Fifth Edition), and thus probably the leading specialist
on allotment law!

Of course the definition of ‘surplus’ is a grey area. According to Mick
Marston of the Soil Association, as far as the law, and the government,
are concerned, “limited commercial activity can take place as long as it is
ancillary to the main purpose”4.

 

[td4bees]

surplus

http://www.organiclea.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/sellingallotmentproduce.pdf

Allotment Gardeners Can Sell their Surplus Crop
There is however, no restriction on the distribution, by sale or otherwise,
of a certain proportion of the plotholder’s crop. Geoff Stokes, secretary
of the National Society of Allotment & Leisure Gardeners (NSALG) has stated
in a recent article: “there seems to be no justification in preventing
[an allotment] tenant from selling or otherwise disposing of ‘surplus’
produce”3. This view has been approved by Paul Clayden, author of The
Law of Allotments (Fifth Edition), and thus probably the leading specialist
on allotment law!

Of course the definition of ‘surplus’ is a grey area. According to Mick
Marston of the Soil Association, as far as the law, and the government,
are concerned, “limited commercial activity can take place as long as it is
ancillary to the main purpose”4.

a good beekeeper only removes the surplus honey from his bees. so its all surplus by definition.

 

[BeeJayBee]

I heard one allotment holder say that they are not to allowed to sell from the site, on the site.

There's a difference between selling from the site, on the allotment site, and selling surplus allotment produce, or by-products, elsewhere - say, from a home address.

The latter is usually okay, as long as the allotment isn't used as the basis for a business.

 

[citybees]

There's a difference between selling from the site, on the allotment site, and selling surplus allotment produce, or by-products, elsewhere - say, from a home address.

The latter is usually okay, as long as the allotment isn't used as the basis for a business.

How can you demonstrate that it isn’t?

 

[pargyle]

How can you demonstrate that it isn’t?

You are talking to the wall ... Beejaybee sadly left the forum in 2016 .. It's an old thread. If you click on the members name it will tell you when they were last active on the forum.

 

[Blunt Spike]

How can you demonstrate that it isn’t?

Its not difficult, dont sell from an allotment without the governing body/ owners permission. If for no other reason they would probably need liability insurance covering members of the public being on site. Take the produce off site to sell, but you can't just set up a stall on the pavement outside either as the council will have an issue.

 

[thorn]

when I had an allotment apiary I sold to the plot holders via their WhatsApp site.

 

[Hull Bees]

1) Public liability insurance.

Here in Hull they specifically require public liability insurance.

 

[citybees]

Whatever the rules say. Locally the wording is not "carry on a business" or sell produce for "personal profit". Which would seem to allow selling for charity or covering costs. In practice, as I recall, some have been reminded of the rules after displaying " honey for sale" notices and told they are not allowed. Swapping surpluses or even selling elsewhere has not attracted attention.

In a eventuality of a dispute what should prevail allotment rules or allotments law ?

 

[John stockburn]

According to many views on the forum to apply three supers of stores per hive throughout the winter may compromise the survival of the colony.

Are you a beekeeper or just stirring the pot ? ,TRYING to use this forums opinions for your own agenda .

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Are you a beekeeper or just stirring the pot ? ,TRYING to use this forums opinions for your own agenda .

That was a post from 2015
The poster hasn't been on here since BC (Before Covid)

 

[Erichalfbee]

And the next post after waverider’s was from Dishmop …. Rest his soul.

 

[pargyle]

And the next post after waverider’s was from Dishmop …. Rest his soul.

And sorely missed ..he was very good to me when I first started keeping bees ... so much help.