Abelo commercial nucs. Seriously unimpressed !

[peterbees]

No amount of extra pieces is going to deal with the approx. 1 and 1/4 litres of dead space on the other side of the divider. That alone is a good enough reason to avoid this product and thus a post here is useful information to any potential.customer of theirs. Nobody would be buying their national nucs if they'd taken the same liberty with adapting a langstroth nuc in this manner.
I contacted Abelo before I posted here and have every intention of posting updates on how they put this right. They've already lost what will be a follow-up order for another 30 nucs and whether they see any portion of the 2.5 to 4 thousand pounds I'll be spending on extraction/processing equipment this year, rests in part with how this turns out.

We thought you'd be using the automatic extracting trailer when it arrives on Anglesey "in July".

 

[SDM]

Ha ha. I expect your extraction kit would have been the £2500 from Abelo and the alternative you will purchase from somewhere else will be 4k? Good business plan!

I am amazed that you claim only 5mm of plastic between the bees and the outside of the nuc - please explain how this comes about. The walls of mine are much thicker than that.

Regarding the claimed 2 1/2” (?) head space, is that any different for those that buy Langstroth? I wonder how they cope, if that is the case.

Sounds like you wanted £60 nucs for £45. And I would expect a further discount, buying by the pallet.

Oh, and mine were not painted, either. But they are doing fine, nearing ten years on....

Oh dear, not a 1/4 of the expected lifespan on your nucs and you think you can judge your poor decision not to paint. Actually Abelo would have accounted for most of the £4k, did you not notice the likes of Konigin at the show? They and other European manufacturers would bring the cost a little under £2.5k. such little knowledge of equipment care and industry costs and you think it's me that lacks business acumen?
I said with the feeder in place only 5mm at each end is covered or without, there's 2.5" of upper bees space. Try and keep up.

 

[thorn]

I contacted Abelo before I posted here and have every intention of posting updates on how they put this right. They've already lost what will be a follow-up order for another 30 nucs and whether they see any portion of the 2.5 to 4 thousand pounds I'll be spending on extraction/processing equipment this year, rests in part with how this turns out.

Surely you should have started this threat if, and only if you got an unsatisfactory response, or no response, from Abelo. To go on the attack as you’ve done smacks of blackmail.

 

[mpenn]

Payne's and maismore both have crownboards.
Why would I want one ? Because otherwise I have 2.5" of bee space above the frames.
"Me thinks" you know nothing about me and other than for the obvious amusement it gives you, you'd be better keeping your ill informed comments to yourself.

Paynes and Masemore supply a clear plastic sheet as a crown board WHY do you need a crown board on a Nuc ??

My comments are based on owning lots Abelo nucs as well as lots hives and extraction equipment and other kit all from Abelo

The quote Sounds like you wanted £60 nucs for £45. And I would expect a further discount, buying by the pallet --- Is very true

So me now knows you like moaning a lot

You should get all your equipment from Konigin good price they will love to have you as a customer

you'd be better keeping your ill informed comments to yourself --- I'm NOT ill informed about you

 

[Finman]

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Come on!

To get a 6 frame nuc cannot be bigger than life.

Drama at its best. And paint or not...a problem heap.

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[SDM]

We thought you'd be using the automatic extracting trailer when it arrives on Anglesey "in July".

I can't imagine who the "we" you refer to is, but I do hope for your sakes that you moved swiftly to a conversation less dull than speculation on my extraction plans
Of course use of the trailer has been offered to me and others, but ive no wish to proceed by making demands on my friends.

 

[SDM]

--- I'm NOT ill informed about you

Yes Dear.

 

[SDM]

Surely you should have started this threat if, and only if you got an unsatisfactory response, or no response, from Abelo. To go on the attack as you’ve done smacks of blackmail.

Not blackmail in the slightest. My first purchase from the company is so far entirely unsatisfactory. I've already stated I will post updates on how they put it right. I believe completely that it's not the mistakes a company makes, but how they correct them that they should be judged on.

 

[SDM]

Email received from Mark @ Abelo this morning just before notification arrived of the refund. They'll arrange collection of the nucs later.
From my perspective this represents the ideal resolution, so I can only applaud them on their customer service.

 

[fatshark]

Thorne's Everynucs also come with a crownboard (made by Bayer which always made me smile). These are Langstroth-sized (or more) boxes with feeders to shrink them to National size.

However, they're advertised as such.

 

[Eyeman]

langstroth nucs with a partial division board at one end.

My Langstroth nucs from Swienty have a groove for a board to go in to make them National

Should there be crown boards included?

Who else makes crown boards for nucs and why would you want them ??

Me thinks you like complaining

If your using telescopic roofs then the crown board stops the bees attaching the tops of the frames to the underside of the roof. Don't want all those frames being lifted out when the roof comes off!

 

[mpenn]

If your using telescopic roofs then the crown board stops the bees attaching the tops of the frames to the underside of the roof. Don't want all those frames being lifted out when the roof comes off!

The Abelo nucs don't have telescopic roofs so frames cant stick to roof.

 

[Anduril]

The important lesson learnt, is don't buy blind. Traders are a phone call away and photos of the innards and description of the inside could have been sent on request. Like JBM you could have requested to see a sample before buying. There was no need to start this thread, the situation could have been resolved, if not, then by all means start one. But this thread has all hallmarks of being preemptive. It has also given free advertising for Abelo, now I know what the innards are like I may consider purchasing some. What you consider is a defect is someone else's pot of gold. There have been a few preemptive threads on here over the years. I am sure that if a trader wanted any threads removed it would happen, it has already happened on voluntary legal sites. It is just a sign of the times. Anyway any advertising is good advertising.

 

[Madge]

If your using telescopic roofs then the crown board stops the bees attaching the tops of the frames to the underside of the roof. Don't want all those frames being lifted out when the roof comes off!

What is a telescopic roof, please?

 

[oliver90owner]

Oh dear, not a 1/4 of the expected lifespan on your nucs and you think you can judge your poor decision not to paint. Actually Abelo would have accounted for most of the £4k, did you not notice the likes of Konigin at the show? They and other European manufacturers would bring the cost a little under £2.5k. such little knowledge of equipment care and industry costs and you think it's me that lacks business acumen?
I said with the feeder in place only 5mm at each end is covered or without, there's 2.5" of upper bees space. Try and keep up.

I am easily keeping up with you. In fact far ahead!

Do learn to read, for a start. I did not say my polynucs are not painted, did I? Obviously you cannot understand the English language. I do hope your beekeeping is better than your reading ability! I expect another thirty years from my nucs, so they will well oulast me.

Again, you are not too clever in assuming I went to that show. Do keep up or not make silly assumptions with no corroborating evidence.

You haven’t done anything more than complain , on this thread. Why not go away and actually do something useful?

 

[fatshark]

What is a telescopic roof, please?

It's what we call a roof ... presumably because it covers the hive and the sides of the roof 'telescope' down over the crownboard.

I think it's a US term.

Unless there are a lot of other different roof designs used in the UK I think the 'telescope' is redundant here.

 

[Finman]

It's what we call a roof ... presumably because it covers the hive and the sides of the roof 'telescope' down over the crownboard.

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It is handy when you put the feeder on the hive.

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[Anduril]

There appears to be a glitch in the forum, it is misquoting.

 

[SDM]

You haven’t done anything more than complain , on this thread. Why not go away and actually do something useful?

Poor fellow, was the thread title not a big enough clue ?
Now do you have anything on topic to offer or just more making an ass of yourself? No doubt worthy of its own thread.

 

[Angry_Mob]

It's what we call a roof ... presumably because it covers the hive and the sides of the roof 'telescope' down over the crownboard.

I think it's a US term.

Unless there are a lot of other different roof designs used in the UK I think the 'telescope' is redundant here.

Is that what we might describe as a deep roof?