What did you do in the Apiary today?

[Erichalfbee]

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[Anduril]

How though? Enzymes in most cells are denatured around 40-42C. Is invertase or any of the other enzymes present in honey able to withstand higher?

Edit: google suggests three main enzymes in honey with the following rough denature temperatures:
Invertase >50C
Diastase >45C
Glucose oxidase 50-60C

So looks like you're right and there may be some hope @Erichalfbee so thank you. @simonwig I'd still question some of the temperatures they're suggesting in that document.

Then there is this:
https://www.fera.co.uk/diastase-test.html

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

clutching at straws here. My probe thermometer, with the probe in a food bag and immersed in the honey is reading 42C throughout the 'tub' (highest 42.9C). Realistically it's been exposed to the higher heat for maybe 20 min. Still written off as baker's honey?

nope, the temperature surrounding the honey container had little chance to affect the contents IMHO

 

[Gilberdyke John]

My wife wrote off about half my summer crop this afternoon. Was warming it to 39C for jarring. Came back and she'd adjusted the temperature to nearer 80C. Not sure on exact temp but human thermometer shows sample from the middle to be over 40C (registering as high).

Guess I've got a job lot of bakers honey.

Edit: clutching at straws here. My probe thermometer, with the probe in a food bag and immersed in the honey is reading 42C throughout the 'tub' (highest 42.9C). Realistically it's been exposed to the higher heat for maybe 20 min. Still written off as baker's honey? (my gut says yes).

Any particular reason she fiddled with the setting?

 

[Wilco]

Any particular reason she fiddled with the setting?

I use the oven, external probe thermometer to confirm setting and have it marked on the dial. It's a twin oven and she tried to turn on the second oven but used the wrong dial, then partially corrected. Could have been double the temperature.

 

[Wilco]

Then there is this:
https://www.fera.co.uk/diastase-test.html

Hmm... Not quite cost effective for me but useful to know.

 

[Anduril]

Hmm... Not quite cost effective for me but useful to know.

It appears that diastase, is what the US beekeepers use as a benchmark for their honey and try not to go above 42°C to liquefy their honey.

 

[Newbeeneil]

I use the oven, external probe thermometer to confirm setting and have it marked on the dial. It's a twin oven and she tried to turn on the second oven but used the wrong dial, then partially corrected. Could have been double the temperature.

It will be fine will........ crystal clear too

 

[E&MBees]

Continued treatment for varroa. One more vape to go and that should be enough. Weighed and hefted hives. All are much heavier than this time last year which is good. Star colony on double brood clocked in at 103lbs. Both apiaries still piling in the ivy.

 

[StephenT]

Did a final inspection on main hives 1 & 2 to check queenright and move apivar strips. Both on 16 frames and rammed with bees, stores and brood. Hive 1 has 38lbs of stores and put on 10lbs in 2 weeks. Hive 2 has 45lbs of stores and put on 24lbs in 2 weeks. The bee traffic was like a sunny spring day today. Concerned that they won't have enough room for brood at this rate given the weather forecast and flow. What do people think?
The nuc which was from the varroa decimated mongrel hive is doing well now and should be good for winter with more feeding.

 

[drex]

In the third week of Apiguard treatment. Hives really busy today, with loads of orientation flights going on. I usually only do one late summer extraction, but had some full supers when it was time to start treatment. Took them off before I put first Apiguard in and just got round to extract them. About another 80 lbs of honey. The first time I have had a second summer crop. All hives needing a three finger heft, so good for winter stores. No feeding needed this year

 

[Redcap]

Transferred bees from their 14x12 brood box to a poly nuc....was initially in two minds, but decided it would be better for them as we move towards the colder weather, also gave them a good feed of invert syrup. They were on 4 frames, and I saw BIAS, but didn't see the queen on this visit...I'm hoping I transferred her successfully, and that she wasn't among a number that somehow ended up on the grass below ( nagging thought !) The box they were in, had good wasp protection, and I'm slightly concerned that moving over to the nuc, reduces their previously good wasp protection...time will tell! Also hoping I can vape though the entrance hole later on, I'm sure I can...

 

[The Poot]

Transferred bees from their 14x12 brood box to a poly nuc....was initially in two minds, but decided it would be better for them as we move towards the colder weather, also gave them a good feed of invert syrup. They were on 4 frames, and I saw BIAS, but didn't see the queen on this visit...I'm hoping I transferred her successfully, and that she wasn't among a number that somehow ended up on the grass below ( nagging thought !) The box they were in, had good wasp protection, and I'm slightly concerned that moving over to the nuc, reduces their previously good wasp protection...time will tell! Also hoping I can vape though the entrance hole later on, I'm sure I can...

You could have dummied down the bigger box, with insulation sheets to avoid the risk to the colony. I hope it works out for you.

 

[lindsay s]

Sorry I haven’t posted on this forum for a few months. This was my weekend’s work and I have another full tank to bottle yet. I always find it very satisfying to see my honey stacked like this and note my favourite table cloth! I am tempted to call it a work of art.

 

[Erichalfbee]

That looks lovely.

 

[lindsay s]

Thanks Dani I have been very late with my extracting this year. It’s normally finished by early September. I’m now labelling this lot and it’s a job I hate. As I said one more tank to go. In reply to your question about Orkney’s honey yields I will reply in more detail soon. Any idea in which thread to post it?

 

[Erichalfbee]

Thanks Dani I have been very late with my extracting this year. It’s normally finished by early September. I’m now labelling this lot and it’s a job I hate. As I said one more tank to go. I reply to your question about Orkney’s honey yields I will reply in more detail soon. Any idea in which thread to post it?

Start your own. I’m sure lots of people are interested in beekeeping up there. I certainly am.
Just post it in the general beekeeping section

 

[lindsay s]

Start your own. I’m sure lots of people are interested in beekeeping up there. I certainly am.
Just post it in the general beekeeping section

I used to post a lot on the SBAI forum but it seems to have died a death at the moment. There should be a feature about Orkney coming up in Beecraft in the next few months. We have already been featured in the Scottish Beekeeper.

 

[Goran]

This season was.. really weird.. Will see did I succeed to make something positive.. It was hard to get queens lay in jenter, like never before. It caught me by surprise, but I persisted. These days waiting last batch of queens to prove are they worthy.. It is late by the book, yet again seems I am lousy student..

 

[Goran]

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