The Weather & Floods

[Norfolk]

Nice that some of you guys didn't suffer much in the storms.

Bear in mind though, two people died and loads of people near me have homes flooded and a couple of houses in Hemsby just North of here are now laying under the waves. I lost the roofs off of two sheds so I'm only out about £1k

 

[itma]

... I lost the roofs off of two sheds so I'm only out about £1k

Sorry to hear that - hopefully there's some insurance that will cover it.

dpearce4 was reading the forum this morning, if not posting, so he is around even if Shoreham Airport is still flooding and there remains an 'alert' for other parts of Shoreham.

Purely personally, I can't imagine sleeping comfortably at such times if I was living on land that was actually below sea level ...

 

[Norfolk]

Sorry to hear that - hopefully there's some insurance that will cover it.

dpearce4 was reading the forum this morning, if not posting, so he is around even if Shoreham Airport is still flooding and there remains an 'alert' for other parts of Shoreham.

Purely personally, I can't imagine sleeping comfortably at such times if I was living on land that was actually below sea level ...

Thanks, the insurance will still cost me the same or nearly the same by the time I pay the excess and get my premium bumped up next year. Grrr
The most annoying thing was I had just had new felt on one of them done two weeks ago after the last storm and replaced about 6 sheets of corri on the other too.

 

[farbee]

Think the highest is over 800ft.

Yes I can see the highest part Kent from the back window but its on the Surrey border. Most other part I thought were pretty lowland but don't venture out further into Kent much.

 

[dpearce4]

Sorry to hear that - hopefully there's some insurance that will cover it.

dpearce4 was reading the forum this morning, if not posting, so he is around even if Shoreham Airport is still flooding and there remains an 'alert' for other parts of Shoreham.

Purely personally, I can't imagine sleeping comfortably at such times if I was living on land that was actually below sea level ...

Hiya Itma,

Im ok, the airport and areas did flood, some of the houses on our estate did get flooded but we were very lucky. The stupid thing is they are trying to get planning consent for another 1000 houses on the land between us and the airport. That would have been 1000 flooded 3times over the last 36 hours.

I hope the council now listen to our concerns about the flood risk and stop the building, but I don't hold out hope as they see the extra council tax it brings in.

 

[madasafish]

Hiya Itma,

Im ok, the airport and areas did flood, some of the houses on our estate did get flooded but we were very lucky. The stupid thing is they are trying to get planning consent for another 1000 houses on the land between us and the airport. That would have been 1000 flooded 3times over the last 36 hours.

I hope the council now listen to our concerns about the flood risk and stop the building, but I don't hold out hope as they see the extra council tax it brings in.

So if built, the houses would quickly become uninsurable.

Having been brought up near the sea in North East Scotland, I make a policy of:
not living near the sea
not living on flood plains
not living besides rivers or anywhere there is a watercourse or evidence of water overflows.

Saves a load of hassle.

A simple search when house hunting ...

 

[Hivemaker.]

The stupid thing is they are trying to get planning consent for another 1000 houses on the land between us and the airport. That would have been 1000 flooded 3times over the last 36 hours.
I hope the council now listen to our concerns about the flood risk and stop the building, but I don't hold out hope as they see the extra council tax it brings in.

So if built, the houses would quickly become uninsurable.

I don't really see a problem with building new houses in areas liable to flooding, just need to use a bit of common sense with the design, it is existing houses that are the problem.

New builds could be similar to these in the link below, on stilts.

http://www.rickmann-uk.com/wp-content/uploads/House-in-Flood.jpg

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

but I don't hold out hope as they see the extra council tax it brings in.

I think you're getting council tax confused with brown envelopes

Having been brought up near the sea in North East Scotland, I make a policy of:
not living near the sea
not living on flood plains
not living besides rivers or anywhere there is a watercourse or evidence of water overflows.

Having been brought up in Wales I find that a simple policy of not living in England keeps me happy enough
I live less than 100 yards from two rivers but as my front doorstep is about sixty feet above the level of the river, I think if the water starts lapping at the door then we've got bigger things to worry about that a little flood water. There are however five bungalows and five houses which have been built at basically the same level at the river - the bank behind them (and at the foot of my house) was the original river bank/cliff so they are actually built on the old bed - I pity them in a serious flood - a case of more brown envelopes again I'm afraid

 

[Gilberdyke John]

I don't really see a problem with building new houses in areas liable to flooding, just need to use a bit of common sense with the design, it is existing houses that are the problem.

New builds could be similar to these in the link below, on stilts.

http://www.rickmann-uk.com/wp-content/uploads/House-in-Flood.jpg

Having grown up in a little village called Howdendyke on the banks of the Ouse,. I saw regular flooding of the older part of the village, almost every Aegre time. The old houses had solid floors, no damp-proof courses and everyone possessed two boards carefully sized to fit across the threshold of front and back doors and be sealed thereto with clay. Floods up to 18" above road level were regularly withstood.
New houses built with chipboard and plasterboard seem pretty poor by comparison.

 

[richardbees]

dpearce4

...glad your hives are ok...

 

[dpearce4]

dpearce4

...glad your hives are ok...

LOL they are safe unless we have a biblical flood as they are over 100m above sealevel.

I haven't kept bees in my garden for 2years now since my neighbour was stung a couple of times and got a bit arsy.

 

[BeeJayBee]

Im ok, the airport and areas did flood, some of the houses on our estate did get flooded but we were very lucky.

Good to hear you're okay, but how sad for the people whose homes were flooded.

 

[user 6228]

I don't really see a problem with building new houses in areas liable to flooding, just need to use a bit of common sense with the design, it is existing houses that are the problem.

New builds could be similar to these in the link below, on stilts.

http://www.rickmann-uk.com/wp-content/uploads/House-in-Flood.jpg

alas building regs for disabled access mean door steps are at ground level. where as flooding would imply a a doorstep much much higher

 

[Hivemaker.]

alas building regs for disabled access mean door steps are at ground level.

Are disabled people allowed to use lifts, or would that be illegal?
I imagine it would most likely be illegal in this country, if it made common sense.

Here are some nice ones...........

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/property...ack-riverside-house-defies-threat-Thames.html
A property developer has finished the first of a number of homes which are 50ft from the River Ouse but raised up to prevent any risk of flooding.

In 2000 torrential rain caused dozens of houses to flood in the East Sussex town and since then developers have stayed away from the flood plains.

The new houses, which cost more than £500,000, include mooring rights on the river.

They are propped up on 10ft steel stilts to make sure they are out of the reach if the river bursts its banks.

Martin Elliot, from Rees Elliot Property Developers, said: "What we have got is our living accommodation approximately 5ft above the previous flood level.

"You can actually see the tide marks on the fence.

"We have raised all the mains services clear of the previous flood level."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/southern_counties/3148887.stm

 

[BeeJayBee]

Are disabled people allowed to use lifts...

How else would they get to upper floors in hospitals, care homes etc??

 

[victor meldrew]

Except when there's a fire, then I suppose they throw them through the window!
VM.


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[Hivemaker.]

How else would they get to upper floors in hospitals, care homes etc??

Firemans lift.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

catapult

 

[user 6228]

Are disabled people allowed to use lifts, or would that be illegal?
I imagine it would most likely be illegal in this country, if it made common sense.

Here are some nice ones...........

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/property...ack-riverside-house-defies-threat-Thames.html
A property developer has finished the first of a number of homes which are 50ft from the River Ouse but raised up to prevent any risk of flooding.

In 2000 torrential rain caused dozens of houses to flood in the East Sussex town and since then developers have stayed away from the flood plains.

The new houses, which cost more than £500,000, include mooring rights on the river.

They are propped up on 10ft steel stilts to make sure they are out of the reach if the river bursts its banks.

Martin Elliot, from Rees Elliot Property Developers, said: "What we have got is our living accommodation approximately 5ft above the previous flood level.

"You can actually see the tide marks on the fence.

"We have raised all the mains services clear of the previous flood level."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/southern_counties/3148887.stm

lifts, non standard footings, even ramps cost money... Building for the masses on flood plains get only a few mm of protection... There are plenty of examples on the Kennet flood plains.

 

[Hivemaker.]

lifts, non standard footings, even ramps cost money...

But would it be cheaper to not build the houses properly, if the council had to pay out the claims as they could not be insured, and re house the people every time there there was a flood, which could be often with climate change.

Big parts of Holland are below sea level, in fact they were sea.