i would have paid just £17 to hear the lecture clive is doing on queen rearing, but i have family comitments, or rather the family is trying to commit me?,my way of looking at it is £17 is a lot of money and it would be better priced at a tenner max, but i usual save between £10 and £20 on postage and delivery on what i buy there rather than on the internet, and as this is my only hobby as such, (allotments rotorvator, sun flowers ect not included) I have always saved a little money to use for saturday, when i wanted to buy my stainless extractor i had it from the stand saved £30 off the price and delivery £35 so it pays for me to go every other year normaly, its also good to get rid of the unwanted wax for sheets of foundation