Selling, we are doing it wrong.

[The Poot]

And tonight I learned that Hal is short for Henry! Didn't know about the ponies. Your history knowledge is impressive.

So are you going to rally the forum for support to your claim to the throne?

It would be refreshing to have a monarch with such a demonstrated interest in flatulent humour

 

[MillMeadow]

Fat Hal did his best to kill Welsh language, culture and unique system of laws which dated from Hywel ap Cadell as well as trying to wipe out our ponies.

The Welsh Cat Laws are fascinating.

 

[rossbyjove]

no, I have a definite claim albeit on the wrong side of the blanket much further down the line being descended from Hywel Dda, patriarch of the Tudor line. Henry VII's claim to be Welsh however is now considered to be pretty dubious and he only claimed to be Edmund Tudor's son to gain support from Welsh noblemen. Margaret Beaufort claim was through John of Ghent, who was just a byblow. and as for Henry being the son of Edmund Tewdur, many now think not and that he was just a grudge baby (somebody had it in for Edmund) once he won at Bosworth he never acknowledged Wales again and his son, Fat Hal did his best to kill Welsh language, culture and unique system of laws which dated from Hywel ap Cadell as well as trying to wipe out our ponies.

I think there was more chance of him being Jasper Tudors son.
Buried at Keynesham abbey, the remains of the buildings are just behind the train station.
He was incredibly loyal to Henry when others had deserted him on masse.
I was in a wars of the roses reenactment society.
I was Jasper Tudor, still have the armour and banner !

 

[rossbyjove]

No, just twaddle (which comes to the same thing).


Pointless confirmation of fact as if 'Sourced Carelessly' would be a reasonable alternative (and why is care given a capital C?).


Delicious taste would suffice, but in twaddlespeak sufficient is never enough.


Another silly naughty-but-nice word used to seduce the nation to belay self-discipline and descend into obesity. Who cares, so long as business benefits and the NHS picks up the bill. Last night in the bath I watched TV footage of cricket Test matches from the 70s; what struck me most forcibly was that the crowd were almost universally slim.

I live in a village soon to be swallowed up by Trowvegas.
Population of Trowvegas , 50% at least are morbidly obese.
I see young people waddling.
NHS will quite literally be crushed to death by the weight of these people 10/20 years down the line.

 

[rossbyjove]

no, I have a definite claim albeit on the wrong side of the blanket much further down the line being descended from Hywel Dda, patriarch of the Tudor line. Henry VII's claim to be Welsh however is now considered to be pretty dubious and he only claimed to be Edmund Tudor's son to gain support from Welsh noblemen. Margaret Beaufort claim was through John of Ghent, who was just a byblow. and as for Henry being the son of Edmund Tewdur, many now think not and that he was just a grudge baby (somebody had it in for Edmund) once he won at Bosworth he never acknowledged Wales again and his son, Fat Hal did his best to kill Welsh language, culture and unique system of laws which dated from Hywel ap Cadell as well as trying to wipe out our ponies.

Henry 7th was a nasty piece work.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Henry 7th was a nasty piece work.

indeed - his brat fat Hal wasn't much better, and the one redeeming feature I can find in his granddaughter was that she was instrumental in helping save the Welsh language after her father tried his best to kill it. Some say that she could actually speak the language.

 

[Swarm]

Pi--'s me off we have to suffer an English man as the Prince of Wales.

We got what we deserved, you only have the thick Welsh to thank for that with their demand for born in Wales and can't speak English. Being born in Wales and unable to speak, never mind English, Edward's son fitted the criteria perfectly.
Out smarted again

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

they didn't have a vote on it didn't you know?
He was foisted upon them.
The non english speaker thing was just the final insulting quip
Nice to see that eventually he embarrassed the lot of them.
Hot poker anyone?

 

[thorn]

no, I have a definite claim albeit on the wrong side of the blanket much further down the line being descended from Hywel Dda, patriarch of the Tudor line. Henry VII's claim to be Welsh however is now considered to be pretty dubious and he only claimed to be Edmund Tudor's son to gain support from Welsh noblemen. Margaret Beaufort claim was through John of Ghent, who was just a byblow. and as for Henry being the son of Edmund Tewdur, many now think not and that he was just a grudge baby (somebody had it in for Edmund) once he won at Bosworth he never acknowledged Wales again and his son, Fat Hal did his best to kill Welsh language, culture and unique system of laws which dated from Hywel ap Cadell as well as trying to wipe out our ponies.

All I have in my ancestry is one of Dick Turpin's brothers.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

All I have in my ancestry is one of Dick Turpin's brothers.

I used to love him in the silent movies.
a bit further down the line I have an aunt of my ancestor (the notorious Oakleigh Leigh) who was concubine to Charles II. Oakleigh was port reeve and superintendent of the poor in Lampeter and installed the first sewerage system there (mid 1700's) he also fathered 19 children (that we know of) by various women locally, but none from his wife!! Oakleigh was also the ancestor of the broadcaster Wynford Vaughan Thomas.

 

[judy12]

It's the " exclusively commissioned, handcrafted, double-walled beehives that interest me". Anyone seen a photo of these marvels?
Forgot the "unique masterpieces" bit.

 

[JamezF]

It's the " exclusively commissioned, handcrafted, double-walled beehives that interest me". Anyone seen a photo of these marvels?
Forgot the "unique masterpieces" bit.

These ones?

James

 

[GaryH]

no, I have a definite claim albeit on the wrong side of the blanket much further down the line being descended from Hywel Dda, patriarch of the Tudor line. Henry VII's claim to be Welsh however is now considered to be pretty dubious and he only claimed to be Edmund Tudor's son to gain support from Welsh noblemen. Margaret Beaufort claim was through John of Ghent, who was just a byblow. and as for Henry being the son of Edmund Tewdur, many now think not and that he was just a grudge baby (somebody had it in for Edmund) once he won at Bosworth he never acknowledged Wales again and his son, Fat Hal did his best to kill Welsh language, culture and unique system of laws which dated from Hywel ap Cadell as well as trying to wipe out our ponies.

Apparently I’m related to a Nigerian princess …. She’s sent me emails to send her some money

 

[pargyle]

Apparently I’m related to a Nigerian princess …. She’s sent me emails to send her some money

The Nigerian Prince I'm related to left me $15million in his estate as I was his only living relative ...

I must get around to sending the lawyers in Lagos my bank details, card details, passport copy, driving licence copy, national insurance number and my birth certificate along with my bank account pin number so that they can make the first transfer of $5million and I can then finally retire ....

 

[The Poot]

These ones?

James

Grotesque!

 

[JamezF]

Grotesque!

I don't know... I think if you're going to keep bees in a formal garden then it's a fun way to do so though I'd not be desperately keen to have to work them.

They're not the only ones I've seen on the same sort of lines. How about this long hive, modelled on the Temple of Concordia in Sicily?



James

 

[The Poot]

I don't know... I think if you're going to keep bees in a formal garden then it's a fun way to do so though I'd not be desperately keen to have to work them.

They're not the only ones I've seen on the same sort of lines. How about this long hive, modelled on the Temple of Concordia in Sicily?

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James

Whatever floats your boat, I suppose…

 

[Erichalfbee]

Henry 7th was a nasty piece work.

And according to David Lammy came after Henry 8

 

[Sutty]

It sounds like they are just decorative "lifts" like a WBC, probably over a standard hive eg national.

 

[JamezF]

It sounds like they are just decorative "lifts" like a WBC, probably over a standard hive eg national.

I had assumed so.

James