selling honey in a shop?

[beesleybees]

hi guys,

if i want to sell my honey in a shop that sells sandwiches/food stuffs

what do i legally have to do?

 

[REDWOOD]

Correct jars, weight, labels, tamper proof seals,
weight must be as stated on label
labels must have the correct size font, postal address, weight
not sure about batch numbering

 

[For want of a better word]

look at Trading Standards selling honey... CORNWALL TRADING STANDARDS has a few web pages devoted to it
shed loads of legislation as to labelling, weights, HACCP ...............

 

[For want of a better word]

Correct jars, weight, labels, tamper proof seals,
weight must be as stated on label
labels must have the correct size font, postal address, weight
not sure about batch numbering

LOT number... best before... country of origin... name and address of producer apiary..... TRACEABILITY COMPLIANCE !

 

[REDWOOD]

LOT number... best before... country of origin... name and address of producer apiary..... TRACEABILITY COMPLIANCE !

Made by bees in Wales is not good enough then

 

[SixFooter]

If you are worried, look it up in "Beekeeping Study Notes" Covered in module 1

 

[Andy Duff]

LOT number... best before... country of origin... name and address of producer apiary..... TRACEABILITY COMPLIANCE !

Oh no, I'm not getting involved, its deja vu all over again Dave

 

[MuswellMetro]

Oh no, I'm not getting involved, its deja vu all over again Dave

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come lets help the poor B , it gives me something to do rather than watch another death on Eastenders

search cornwall trading in the Forum Search and/ or go to

http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=22151

some shops and farmers markets ask for hygiene qualification and insurance

the insurance certificate is on the BBKA web site ,if you log in as a member and you can take NVQ level 2 on line in food manufacturing for £25-£30

 

[VEG]

you need to register with environmental health and trading standards.

 

[Hivemaker.]

you need to register with environmental health and trading standards.

And maybe inland revenue.

 

[Andy Duff]

you need to register with environmental health and trading standards.

OK MM you dragged me into it, From what I have gleaned from TSO there is a big difference between direct sales to the public and wholesales to retail sale, which involves the bee-keeper becoming a food manufacturer. This is the point where things get serious and legal and my obviously limited mental faculties failed me.

Short and simples answer-
Give the shop owner some free honey ( a sweetener-GROAN) and ask him/her to let you put a small poster in the shop window advertising your honey,
get your lables right (I am not going there again) and sorted. Probably.

I just think this whole thread was started by some big show off who has managed to get enough honey to sell this year

 

[REDWOOD]

Get the shop keeper to sell from under the counter

 

[Andy Duff]

And maybe inland revenue.

ERRR don't forget public liabillity/ indemnity (spell check please) insurance in case somebody scratches their finger on the lid or gets whiplash while opening the jar.

COMPO CLAIM

 

[MuswellMetro]

well i think you are ok, so long as you sell direct to the shop...rather than a chain of shops or via a wholesale outlet that is when HACCP and hygene regulation cut in on transport, storage etc

the only difference between a farmers market and asale to a shop is the need for produce of "XXXXXX" on the label and BBF or Lot numers and you need certified scales to weigh the honey but who of you use them LOL ( expect me that is i have some)


uk produce regs etc

4.6 Prepacked for direct sale
Reg 23 FLR
The term “prepacked for direct sale” is defined in the FLR as a food that is
prepacked by a retailer for sale by him or her on the premises where the food
is packed, or from a vehicle or stall used by him or her.
Products which fall within this category will be subject to certain exemptions
by virtue of Regulation 23 of the FLR. This applies to honey harvested at
home and sold at the home, farmgate or in market stalls. Regulation 4(1) of
the Honey Regulations requires certain additional labelling information such
as an origin declaration to be given on specified honey products. It does
provide that this is without prejudice to the generality of Part II of the Food
Labelling Regulations 1996, which means that the general provisions in that
part of the 1996 Regulations continue to apply. Part II of the 1996
Regulations through the application of regulation 23 provides that certain
products which are prepacked for direct sale are exempt from the majority of
the labelling requirements specified in Regulation 5 of the FLR, with certain
specified exceptions. Since country of origin labelling is part of Regulation 5
(by way of Regulation 5(f) which is implemented via the 1998 amendment to
the FLR), it is the Agency’s opinion that honey prepacked for direct sale may
be exempt from the origin labelling requirements of the Honey Regulations. It
should be noted though that this exemption would only apply for honey that is
prepacked for direct sale. Honey sold other than prepacked for direct sale
must be labelled with its country of origin in accordance with the Honey
Regulations.
5. Enforcementb

 

[Andy Duff]

well i think you are ok, so long as you sell direct to the shop...rather than a chain of shops or via a wholesale outlet that is when HACCP and hygene regulation cut in on transport, storage etc

the only difference between a farmers market and asale to a shop is the need for produce of "XXXXXX" on the label and BBF or Lot numers and you need certified scales to weigh the honey but who of you use them LOL ( expect me that is i have some)


uk produce regs etc

4.6 Prepacked for direct sale
Reg 23 FLR
The term “prepacked for direct sale” is defined in the FLR as a food that is
prepacked by a retailer for sale by him or her on the premises where the food
is packed, or from a vehicle or stall used by him or her.
Products which fall within this category will be subject to certain exemptions
by virtue of Regulation 23 of the FLR. This applies to honey harvested at
home and sold at the home, farmgate or in market stalls. Regulation 4(1) of
the Honey Regulations requires certain additional labelling information such
as an origin declaration to be given on specified honey products. It does
provide that this is without prejudice to the generality of Part II of the Food
Labelling Regulations 1996, which means that the general provisions in that
part of the 1996 Regulations continue to apply. Part II of the 1996
Regulations through the application of regulation 23 provides that certain
products which are prepacked for direct sale are exempt from the majority of
the labelling requirements specified in Regulation 5 of the FLR, with certain
specified exceptions. Since country of origin labelling is part of Regulation 5
(by way of Regulation 5(f) which is implemented via the 1998 amendment to
the FLR), it is the Agency’s opinion that honey prepacked for direct sale may
be exempt from the origin labelling requirements of the Honey Regulations. It
should be noted though that this exemption would only apply for honey that is
prepacked for direct sale. Honey sold other than prepacked for direct sale
must be labelled with its country of origin in accordance with the Honey
Regulations.
5. Enforcementb

Simple

 

[Hivemaker.]

Forgot to add that you may need to also imform customs and excise if you intend to add certain things to your honey.

 

[Poly Hive]

Visited a packer recently with over 100 lines and no tamper evident seals.

Also where is it stated that Local Gov has to be informed that you are selling honey?

Curious

PH

 

[protheroe]

last year i sold honey to a shop,then received a letter a month later stating that if sold any more honey without registering as a food buisness establishment with the local enviromental health and trading standards,i would be taken to court.

 

[Teemore]

One of the forumers who is local to me recently got a letter similar to that received by protheroe..... he had put a few jars into a local shop and has been asked to register as a food producer. I am waiting to hear how he gets on and what he actually has to do.
Stephen - if you read this, let me know how things are progressing.

 

[Poly Hive]

Interesting.

I wonder if that is one outfit flexing their LG muscles or a general requirement?

PH