refugees welcome

[REDWOOD]

Plenty of golf courses they could dig up and turn into farm land so they could feed themselves and earn an income for or country.

 

[midnight sun]

European Population densities.

People/sq km:

England - 419
Holland - 408
Wales - 258
Germany - 226
Italy - 205
N. Ireland - 130
Poland - 123
Portugal - 116
France - 105
Romania - 89
Bulgaria - 66
Scotland - 40

Those World Cup scores are surely wrong. Your TV needs fixing!

 

[Ely]

we'd have even more space in if we sent all the English back to whence they came (we didn't invite them to stay after the Romans left! )

So are you pure Celt or Briton? Have no Roman, Viking, Saxon, Norman or other in you?

 

[Greggorio]

We have caused a lot of this problem ourselves anyway. We wanted rid of Assad and destabilised his regime ever more and secretly funded the rebels. ISIS popped up in the vacuum and when the civilians get caught in the middle while we dither about what we can do (we obviously can't look like hypocrites and help Assad now...).
If we could just stop meddling it might go a long way to avoiding these issues.

Either way, kudos to Germany and other countries for taking so many refugees in.

 

[mbc]

We have caused a lot of this problem ourselves anyway. We wanted rid of Assad and destabilised his regime ever more and secretly funded the rebels. ISIS popped up in the vacuum and when the civilians get caught in the middle while we dither about what we can do (we obviously can't look like hypocrites and help Assad now...).
If we could just stop meddling it might go a long way to avoiding these issues.

Either way, kudos to Germany and other countries for taking so many refugees in.

 

[pargyle]

I see on the news tonight the thousands of refugees being taken by Germany ... Two being interviewed .. a Doctor and a Dentist (Syrians) both speaking excellent English. I have to wait two weeks for a doctors appointment and there isn't a NHS Dentist with any room on their list for miles around ... are we missing a trick here ?

 

[B+.]

With our ageing society

What you call an "ageing society" is the result of a "baby boom" in the late 50's/early 60's after which the birth rate dropped until there was a mini baby boom in the 90's. The figures always show a slightly skewed distribution in favour of males in any age group (ONS figures).
The point is that this is a temporary situation.

 

[masterBK]

JBM : Didn't the Celts originate in central Europe so should they be sent back too?

 

[mbc]

JBM : Didn't the Celts originate in central Europe so should they be sent back too?

Most anthropologists seem to think with new genetic sampling that the Celtic migration was largely a migration of ideas, art and a new type of wheat agriculture rather than any big migration of an invading force of people.

 

[Swarm]

Nothing Celtic about the first Britons.

 

[REDWOOD]

We have caused a lot of this problem ourselves anyway. We wanted rid of Assad and destabilised his regime ever more and secretly funded the rebels. ISIS popped up in the vacuum and when the civilians get caught in the middle while we dither about what we can do (we obviously can't look like hypocrites and help Assad now...).
If we could just stop meddling it might go a long way to avoiding these issues.

Either way, kudos to Germany and other countries for taking so many refugees in.

And the lies about weapons of mass destruction they never had, all they did was change the currency of oil from dollars to euros and the Americans got tetchy about their economy.

 

[For want of a better word]

I see on the news tonight the thousands of refugees being taken by Germany ... Two being interviewed .. a Doctor and a Dentist (Syrians) both speaking excellent English. I have to wait two weeks for a doctors appointment and there isn't a NHS Dentist with any room on their list for miles around ... are we missing a trick here ?

We are... Shirley the "regime" they are fleeing from want to go back to living in the stone age.. well AD 1000 or thereabouts.... fundamentally flawed!

Yeghes da

 

[pargyle]

We are... Shirley the "regime" they are fleeing from want to go back to living in the stone age.. well AD 1000 or thereabouts.... fundamentally flawed!

Yeghes da

Well .. their loss could be someone else's gain .. at present Germany seem to be welcoming these people with open arms so they must see an economic benefit alongside the philanthropic aspect. With our Government currently telling our doctors that they are going to be looking at 7 day patient/doctor accessibility in the near future perhaps we should be advertising in Syria for qualified doctors to join our NHS ... drain all the doctors (and other professional people) from a country which, as you say, seems intent on returning to the stone age ... let them return if they wish but those who wish to stay in the real world should be ENCOURAGED to leave not just be welcomed when they do ...

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

So are you pure Celt or Briton? Have no Roman, Viking, Saxon, Norman or other in you?

No Roman, a dash of viking (the King of Dublin back in about 400 AD) definitely no Saxon or angle blood, unfortunately two or three Norman noblemen around the 12th century (that's the problem being descended from the nobility) but no other pollution from at least King Henry VII onwards

JBM : Didn't the Celts originate in central Europe so should they be sent back too?

Celts were just a frame of mind invented by the Victorians

Exactly - that's what some clowns can't get their narrow little minds around what we have now in Britain is a rich tapestry of races and cultures, still being enriched by new incomers, in twenty or fifty years time we will be wondering what all the fuss was and why did we even contemplating turning valued members of society away.
Still think we should send the English back though, the arrogance and ignorance is showing through plainly now with the rantings of UKIP and 'Britain First'

Nothing Celtic about the first Britons.

 

[Thymallus]

With our Government currently telling our doctors that they are going to be looking at 7 day patient/doctor accessibility in the near future

Perhaps if the NHS stopped allowing their doctors and facilities to be used for private practices by the same NHS doctors treating NHS patients in the morning and then treating paying customers later in the same day (and supplementing their already substantial salaries) it wouldn't be such an issue. The NHS need to make a stance on this. Either you are work only for them or you work full time only for the private sector. Stop them drawing two salaries.
Poor dears are so tired from their duel jobs they need weekends off to give them time to recover from the weight of all that money..

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Perhaps if the NHS stopped allowing their doctors and facilities to be used for private practices by the same NHS doctors treating NHS patients in the morning and then treating paying customers later in the same day (and supplementing their already substantial salaries) it wouldn't be such an issue. The NHS need to make a stance on this. Either you are work only for them or you work full time only for the private sector. Stop them drawing two salaries.
Poor dears are so tired from their duel jobs they need weekends off to give them time to recover from the weight of all that money..

not just doctors though - I have nothing but admiration for most nurses - quite a few of my family are, including my mother who was an auxiliary. My cousin was once asked to work a bank holiday Monday (overtime shift, they were paid decently in them days) she refused as she had things planned so they had to call in an agency nurse at something like ten times the cost. The agency nurse turned up - my cousin who was moonlighting!!

 

[Thymallus]

Even more galling is NHS facilities are being used by private practice (rented) when they could be used by NHS doctors reducing our awful waiting lists (well those NHS doctors not moonlighting in the private sector).
Never let accounts near anything.
More doctors is not the answer.

 

[REDWOOD]

Our NHS has taken away our human rights to be treated equally as the rich

 

[Torq]

Perhaps if the NHS stopped allowing their doctors and facilities to be used for private practices by the same NHS doctors treating NHS patients in the morning and then treating paying customers later in the same day (and supplementing their already substantial salaries) it wouldn't be such an issue. The NHS need to make a stance on this. Either you are work only for them or you work full time only for the private sector. Stop them drawing two salaries.
Poor dears are so tired from their dual jobs they need weekends off to give them time to recover from the weight of all that money..

Oh that's good! I thought we were the only country that has that sort of crap going on. Exactly the same here.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

A wee while ago I was speaking to the secretary of a consultant to ascertain whether I could be seen sometime before the need to see would have been less of a priority than getting a nice zimmer frame. I stressed to her the fact as I was of an age to still be in full time employment if I didn't get treatment soon I would have to go on sick thus adding to the burden of the welfare system, her answer?
"well, you have to understand the NHS is under great pressure at the moment - not enough consultants to deal with the workload - Mr **** is trying his best to reduce the waiting list, but at the moment there is a minimum of a six month wait - if you want to see him privately though, I can make you an appointment for early next week" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It doesn't help though that all the petty bureaucrats that fill the NHS to overflowing bu**er up everything. A good friend of mine who is a nurse was telling me only last week that two eye specialists have resigned in her department thanks to the treatment they're getting from the 'managers' they are now in full time private practice.
Anyway, enough of whingeing about how the tories are ripping apart Jim Griffiths' and Nye Bevan's dream - I'm off to drop a truckload of clothes, bedding and toiletries off at our local refugee aid collection point