Mite drop

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Oh dear, another sense of humour failure by the new self confessed chief troll.

Let's get back to the post in question then shall we?
1. forumite states he sprinkles his bees with sugar regularly ( a rather pointless exercise - scientifically proven fact)
2. Second forumite makes light of this by asking if he adds Apibioxial - what reason would there be to add a dry mix of sugar, sand and oxalic acid to sugar, apart from maybe suggesting this may make the anointing of bees with dry sugar a wee bit more effective.
3. I laugh at the suggestion
4. another forumite, totally missing the point comes in with an insult and a rather off curve comment about how to mix it.

 

[Somerford]

Oh dear, another sense of humour failure by the new self confessed chief troll.

Let's get back to the post in question then shall we?
1. forumite states he sprinkles his bees with sugar regularly ( a rather pointless exercise - scientifically proven fact)
2. Second forumite makes light of this by asking if he adds Apibioxial - what reason would there be to add a dry mix of sugar, sand and oxalic acid to sugar, apart from maybe suggesting this may make the anointing of bees with dry sugar a wee bit more effective.
3. I laugh at the suggestion
4. another forumite, totally missing the point comes in with an insult and a rather off curve comment about how to mix it.

No.I called you out in your response.

the chap was asking if he should mix it with icing sugar. I responded with the facts.

get some reading glasses

a troll I am not but I will call you or anyone else out if you play unfairly.

Way back when this forum began a good many beekeepers gave up with it and left due to facetiousness and belittling.

It's not big or clever or particularly nice and you should know better

S

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

the chap was asking if he should mix it with icing sugar. I responded with the facts.

No he wasn't - Cheers (an old forumite and bee farmer, albeit a bit of a clown ) was making a facetious but relevant point about icing sugar sprinkling (maybe you should have gone to specsavers)

a troll I am not

Really? - from a post earlier this week:

An a new one - baiting JMB

https://beekeepingforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=648057&postcount=56

 

[Somerford]

Because it's clear you think you have the authority and loudness of voice to speak on everything and you're happy to shout everyone down.
Baiting isn't trolling. you need to brush up on your internet parlance

he was asking a question or are you imagining things ?


best go for an early night

as for the Specsavers, since you really don't know me, the last laugh really is on you


KR

S

 

[Erichalfbee]

Lighten up
I thought the Apibioxal comment was funny too.
Hilarious infact

 

[Hans wilson]

Have to admit, I took it to be light hearted

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Baiting isn't trolling. you need to brush up on your internet parlance

From the urban dictionary:

baiting
An excuse a troll uses

as for the Specsavers, since you really don't know me, the last laugh really is on you

As the first remark regards eyesight was from you, maybe you should consider before posting.
You don't know me - you certainly don't know the struggle I have had since 2013 with eyesight failing so quickly it's needed a change of spectacles every few months, until surgery three years ago I feared I would have to give up driving, spotting queens was about the only thing I could still do well, and even after correction, a hiccup meant further correction earlier this year, and still there are times when I think we're back to square one.

stop putting yourself up as some self appointed mod. on this site with a specific target of me, and wind your neck in.

 

[For want of a better word]

Lighten up
I thought the Apibioxal comment was funny too.
Hilarious infact

Thank you.....

BUT I have heard this suggested by a self proclaimed "master" beekeeper.... addition of OA to icing sugar.

Off on another angle... is there any peer reviewed publications as to the harmful effect to brood from OA if used ( obviously) when brood is present????

Yeghes da

 

[Beefriendly]

Yes there is.

 

[For want of a better word]

Yes there is.

Yes there is ... what?

Yeghes da

 

[Finman]

Thank you.....

BUT I have heard this suggested by a self proclaimed "master" beekeeper.... addition of OA to icing sugar.

Off on another angle... is there any peer reviewed publications as to the harmful effect to brood from OA if used ( obviously) when brood is present????

Yeghes da

When EU project made 6 years researching about best varroa treatments 1988-2003, they told then that dribbling is harmfull to open brood.
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[Finman]

Thank you.....

BUT I have heard this suggested by a self proclaimed "master" beekeeper.... addition of OA to icing sugar.
da

There is no such recipe. Syrup's duty is to glue the acid on bees' surface and get acid's direct contact to the mite.

Before dribbling oxalic acid was sprayed on each side of frame as 3 % water solution.
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[BeeSpace]

I read this recently, if it's of any interest, regarding cell death in larvae treated with OA:

https://www.apidologie.org/articles/apido/abs/2004/05/M4027/M4027.html

 

[Curly green fingers]

Drops are variable, really depends on all year round husbandry.

I keep on omf's and fork out a little drone comb every few weeks, if infestation is low I leave capped drone & if infestation looks high I remove comb and replace. Icing sugar dusting once a week or fortnightly works for me to keep phoretic mites low.

Three six day interval vapes has produced no more then approx. 300-500 mite count over the whole three vapes much on par with last years results.


I always treat regardless and a xmas/new year vape ready for the process to begin again.

Thanks for sharing your Ipm with us , I've done sugar dusting this year not as much as you though . There was extra mite drops on the one hive that I did it on , this hive is my strongest but also has the highest varroa count after treating with apilife-var for 5 weeks and is having apivar strips added tomorrow . In fact I'm going to add it to all three at home .
Apilife-var has worked but imo its crap!

 

[Beefriendly]

Yes there is ... what?

Yeghes da

At least one peer reviewed publication describing the harmful effect on brood and subsequent bee mortality from OA dribbling when brood is present.

 

[Finman]

I read this recently, if it's of any interest, regarding cell death in larvae treated with OA:

https://www.apidologie.org/articles/apido/abs/2004/05/M4027/M4027.html

In this research 3% oxalic acid sugar sugar syrup was sprayed onto larvae. Year was 2003. Yes, tests have made much it is well known when to use trickling.

Another treatment is 1-3% water solution.


However, trickling is very good treatment method. It may kill bees but it kills better mites.


Biggest problem in methods is, that beekeepers do not mind about original advices but they use "I heard" reciped and DIY systems. And even do nothing tricks.

 

[Finman]

At least one ....

! They are tens during 20 years and the thing has been known from very beginning. Italian professor Nanetti invented trickling 1997.

Perizin had too trickling method, but liquid did not had sugar. It was before Apistan.

 

[Erichalfbee]

Apilife-var has worked but imo its crap!

Why do you think it’s crap?

 

[Finman]

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Apilife var is thymol.

 

[Hivemaker.]

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Apilife var is thymol.

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