Laying workers

[Finman]

50 years on this forum, filling up on vodka and trolling, I mean educating the good people on this site, all the while harvesting tons of honey from your skyscrapers and despite all of your education, degrees and knowledge you still haven't learnt the nuances of the English language.

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What is the value of English nuances....

The other text is good one. 3 hives owners are masters .

Like I told, university of Sheffield revieled the mystery of laying workers, but no one in this forum has read it except me.

Now guys are angry, when I tell about the English research. You should respect my university biological skills to tell you about English knowledge.

But fairy tales continues... With nuances...

 

[sipa]

Hey Finny,

I for one appreciate your input, you are not always right but there is often some truth in what you say.

I'd like to give you a small piece of advice... feel free to offer an opinion, guidance or quote facts but please don't get offended if others either disagree with you, contradict you or fail to offer thanks for you trying to help.

As an undoubtedly experienced beekeeper you know very well that beekeepers have their own way of doing things, as do the bees we are trying to manage.

 

[Poly Hive]

Nice effort but utterly wasted.

PH

 

[colinc]

What is the value of English nuances....



The other text is good one. 3 hives owners are masters .



Like I told, university of Sheffield revieled the mystery of laying workers, but no one in this forum has read it except me.



Now guys are angry, when I tell about the English research. You should respect my university biological skills to tell you about English knowledge.



But fairy tales continues... With nuances...

Respect is earned and it is not based solely on someone's knowledge. People don't listen to you when you are rude and behave like an a***hole.

English nuances are very important in an English speaking forum because they enable you to tell the difference between a serious comment, a joke, a question and rhetorical questions.

These subtleties, even after all your years conversing in English and telling the forum how to do it, fail to make it through your vodka haze.

As a result, if all your stories are true then as a beekeeper you would have my respect, but as a human being, you have done nothing to deserve any of my respect.

Bottoms up.


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[Poly Hive]

Etton like this you mean?

LW's do NOT lay on the cell bottom as their bums are too short.

LW's are also rather unusual to have.

PH

 

[kevrhcfag]

Can you explain what you mean re capping.....you might have a laying drone queen you will see when capped. Thanks

Drone in worker cells tend to have a very pronounced dome when capped easily distinguished from worker capping.

DLQ not LDQ.

 

[Finman]

, but as a human being, you have done nothing to deserve any of my respect

Yes, I have not done nothing. Amen.

 

[Uncle Betty]

I have not seen that even if many talks about that.

And drone eggs reveal themselves after few days. You cannot mix worker layer and young Queen.

Can you explain what you mean here, please ?

 

[colinc]

Yes, I have not done nothing. Amen.

I have not disagreed with what you say, as it has been said you have extensive experience and knowledge, I object to how you say it. If with all your expertise you are here to impart knowledge and educate them that is fine, however, you always dive in with the derogatory comments and insults.

look again at your first post on this thread. You attack people straight away.


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[Uncle Betty]

As a general rule, pejorative inferences about a person's alcohol use/abuse are hardly ever constructive.

Just my experience.

 

[colinc]

As a general rule, pejorative inferences about a person's alcohol use/abuse are hardly ever constructive.



Just my experience.

Neither is branding everyone a 3 hive know nothing who has nothing to say until they are 80 years old and have read every piece of Bee related academic research available. It is in every thread Finnie gets involved with.

I have never had an answer to my question as to why he is here when our collective ignorance and stupidity irritates him so much.

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[pargyle]

Hey Finny,

I for one appreciate your input, you are not always right but there is often some truth in what you say.

I'd like to give you a small piece of advice... feel free to offer an opinion, guidance or quote facts but please don't get offended if others either disagree with you, contradict you or fail to offer thanks for you trying to help.

As an undoubtedly experienced beekeeper you know very well that beekeepers have their own way of doing things, as do the bees we are trying to manage.

Oh dear I think I'm going to



Oopps ... too late!

 

[pargyle]

Neither is branding everyone a 3 hive know nothing who has nothing to say until they are 80 years old and have read every piece of Bee related academic research available. It is in every thread Finnie gets involved with.

I have never had an answer to my question as to why he is here when our collective ignorance and stupidity irritates him so much.

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Because he's been banned from every other forum .....

 

[Poly Hive]

There is such a thing as the ignore button. Useful thing.

PH

 

[Etton]

Etton like this you mean?

LW's do NOT lay on the cell bottom as their bums are too short.

LW's are also rather unusual to have.

PH

Nope, just a few with more than one egg the rest singles, im hoping its a new queen and will check again this week. I f seems queenless i will add some eggs & brood and see what happens. DLW...drone laying workers

 

[Beefriendly]

LW's are also rather unusual to have.

PH

You have laying workers in every hive you own. Can't remember exact numbers either 1/1000 or 1/10000 worker bees. Worker policing prevents you noticing them as they eliminate their eggs...most of the time. Ever found a small patch of drone brood in a super and "assumed" the queen went up briefly?

What I'm interested in finding out in a queenless colony, do LW's develop in larger numbers so the worker police can't eliminate all their eggs? Or does the queenless and broodless period affect the worker policing such that the laying workers (that were already present) egg laying now become apparent.

 

[Plenty of honey]

What is the value of English nuances....

The other text is good one. 3 hives owners are masters .

Like I told, university of Sheffield revieled the mystery of laying workers, but no one in this forum has read it except me.

Now guys are angry, when I tell about the English research. You should respect my university biological skills to tell you about English knowledge.

But fairy tales continues... With nuances...

Is this what your talking about Finman???? https://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1882

https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/molecol/projects/honeybee

 

[Beefriendly]

https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/molecol/projects/honeybee

Thnaks for that answers part of the question.
"Although the proportion of workers in normal queenright colonies with fully-activated ovaries is only 0.01% (Ratnieks 1993) this represents several workers who can collectively lay a substantial fraction of the colony's male eggs (estimated at 7%, Visscher 1996). These are almost all policed before hatching (Ratnieks 1993, Visscher 1996) and in normal queenright colonies only one adult male in a thousand is a worker's son (Visscher 1989). Workers do not discriminate between queen's and worker's sons in the larval stage (Ratnieks & Visscher 1989)."

 

[Plenty of honey]

Thnaks for that answers part of the question.
"Although the proportion of workers in normal queenright colonies with fully-activated ovaries is only 0.01% (Ratnieks 1993) this represents several workers who can collectively lay a substantial fraction of the colony's male eggs (estimated at 7%, Visscher 1996). These are almost all policed before hatching (Ratnieks 1993, Visscher 1996) and in normal queenright colonies only one adult male in a thousand is a worker's son (Visscher 1989). Workers do not discriminate between queen's and worker's sons in the larval stage (Ratnieks & Visscher 1989)."

Well thats the bit i read too, but it seems everyone has the definitive answer here!! oh well, who to believe lol

 

[Finman]

Is this what your talking about Finman???? https://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1882

https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/molecol/projects/honeybee

Thats it.

As you see, Sheffield story were ready at least year 2003. But information has not reached beekeepers.

University got idea from common wasp, when wasp colony control laying .

Later bumbble bee policing has bee revieled.