Laying workers

[Beefriendly]

Moved brood four hours with no issues.

Yup, 15 minutes, no need to even keep them damp.....unless heat wave.
Just take them there.

 

[Erichalfbee]

Moved brood four hours with no issues.

Still waiting to hear why the OP thinks there are laying workers.

PH

I'm still waiting to hear whether the chap who shook out a box and watched carnage smoked the shake out

 

[Millet]

I wish i had a normal laying worker then things would be much easier, today i went through a hive that DID have a virgin Queen 3wks ago, today there was two sealed queen cells containing small pupae but not one single egg or brood anywhere else explain that anyone.

 

[Finman]

I wish i had a normal laying worker .

On your knees and pray.

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[colinc]

I wish i had a normal laying worker then things would be much easier, today i went through a hive that DID have a virgin Queen 3wks ago, today there was two sealed queen cells containing small pupae but not one single egg or brood anywhere else explain that anyone.

I can explain it. You have absolutely no luck.

If I was closer to you I would offer you all the frames of BIAS you might need to get your colonies stable. I hope your new, prolific bees enable you to resolve these issues as you do not deserve this run of luck.

I was beginning to get twitchy about my AS that I made queenless to requeen from my Buckie rather than go F2. 3.5 weeks today and gone from none to 5 frames in a week.


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[Millet]

I can explain it. You have absolutely no luck.

If I was closer to you I would offer you all the frames of BIAS you might need to get your colonies stable. I hope your new, prolific bees enable you to resolve these issues as you do not deserve this run of luck.

I was beginning to get twitchy about my AS that I made queenless to requeen from my Buckie rather than go F2. 3.5 weeks today and gone from none to 5 frames in a week.


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Another good Egg and Thank you very much from the bottom of my heart, i will not forget and if you ever need help i will if i can.
Thank you
Steve.

 

[Etton]

Moved brood four hours with no issues.

Still waiting to hear why the OP thinks there are laying workers.

PH

felt it could be LW as no eggs or brood but found some cells with multiple eggs but also many cells with single eggs. Have read that could be a Q starting to lay after virgin flight so will give more time and inspect next week. Loads of drone cells in the two hives.

 

[colinc]

Another good Egg and Thank you very much from the bottom of my heart, i will not forget and if you ever need help i will if i can.
Thank you
Steve.

I just know that eventually our good fortune runs out. Currently I have three and a "nearly" colonies. I live in fear of my 2015 queen disappearing and I get DLWs.

I do however love my bees.

 

[Finman]

I just know that eventually our good fortune runs out. Currently I have three and a "nearly" colonies. I live in fear of my 2015 queen disappearing and I get DLWs.

I do however love my bees.

Based on what? Nothing to do with fortune.

2015 Queen disappears... Arrange new, when it happens. What is DLW?

Stop loving and learn beekeeping.

 

[kevrhcfag]

felt it could be LW as no eggs or brood but found some cells with multiple eggs but also many cells with single eggs. Have read that could be a Q starting to lay after virgin flight so will give more time and inspect next week. Loads of drone cells in the two hives.

Lots of drones could be a number of things, queens tend to throw more drones before swarming. The condition of your cells in the frames if a lot of drone size you will get a lot of drones.

Multiple eggs and spotty pattern comes from young queens getting the hang of things. You might have a laying queen, you might have a laying drone queen you will see when capped.

You seem to have just one thing after the other.

 

[Finman]

Multiple eggs and spotty pattern comes from young queens getting the hang of things.
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I have not seen that even if many talks about that.

And drone eggs reveal themselves after few days. You cannot mix worker layer and young Queen.

 

[Etton]

Can you explain what you mean re capping.....you might have a laying drone queen you will see when capped. Thanks

 

[Finman]

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What is typical to desperate worker layer hive is that workers fan lots the nasanov gland open.

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[colinc]

Based on what? Nothing to do with fortune.



2015 Queen disappears... Arrange new, when it happens. What is DLW?



Stop loving and learn beekeeping.

50 years on this forum, filling up on vodka and trolling, I mean educating the good people on this site, all the while harvesting tons of honey from your skyscrapers and despite all of your education, degrees and knowledge you still haven't learnt the nuances of the English language.

I was being melodramatic.

I am aware the site (and the internet) is not that old.

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[Gilberdyke John]

50 years on this forum, filling up on vodka and trolling, I mean educating the good people on this site, all the while harvesting tons of honey from your skyscrapers and despite all of your education, degrees and knowledge you still haven't learnt the nuances of the English language.

I was being melodramatic.

I am aware the site (and the internet) is not that old.

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Over the years many group members have wearied of the repetitive stream of condescending posts. I find the forum killfile facility invaluable. There's only one member currently in my list of blocked senders - guess who

 

[Karsal]

I'm still waiting to hear whether the chap who shook out a box and watched carnage smoked the shake out

Yes I did smoke them and it made no difference. Bees don't always follow what it says in the books.
I won't do a shake out next time I'll try another way.

 

[maddydog]

I've never shook a laying worker colony. 'Normalising' by adding brood and then either uniting to a strong q+ colony or introducing a mated queen works for me. Make sure the queen is expendable though and not a £40 one!
Not sure about Finski's experience but I've quite often seen a few cells with a couple of eggs in it when a newly mated queen is getting going or even an older queen resuming laying after winter.

 

[Erichalfbee]

Yes I did smoke them and it made no difference. Bees don't always follow what it says in the books.
I won't do a shake out next time I'll try another way.

No, if that happened to me I wouldn't do it again either. Rotten luck. Must have been dreadful.youd think that a bee with a tummy full of honey would get past a guard.

 

[Finman]

Not sure about Finski's experience but I've quite often seen a few cells with .....

I have seen 10 eggs hanging in queens abdomen, but you need not to make forum issue about all things what happens. It is good if you get 70% out hives act like you wish.

Of course I can see couple of eggs in the cells, but it is not a rule among youg queens. And to teach to beginner, that young queen lays many eggs. That is false. Perhaps 5%. I do not bother count it.

What ever I write, some write then " not all " . What meaning has such teaching.

Bees are interesting, because " not all repeat the same ".

Not all queens lay eggs...... Halleluja... What then. You squeeze it.

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[Finman]

Bees don't always follow what it says in the books.
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That is more right than the fact. But it does not save you as a miserable beekeeper.