Is it really honey?

[peterbees]

Honey on sale at Lidl, 75p for a 340g jar.
Labelled Produced in UK, produce of China.
How does that work?

 

[peterbees]

Reply from Customer Service Lidl GB.
"Oh dear! So sorry about that, Peter. Please provide us with your email address, barcode number, expiry date, lot/batch number, store purchased from and your receipt so we can get this looked into".

 

[Erichalfbee]

Honey on sale at Lidl, 75p for a 340g jar.
Labelled Produced in UK, produce of China.
How does that work?

It’s because this is the definition

"Produced in the UK" means that a product is either wholly manufactured, assembled, or produced within the UK, or that it has been significantly changed through a process within the UK. The seller must also be based in and selling from the UK.

 

[Erichalfbee]

Note the word assembled
But
or that it has been significantly changed through a process within the UK. ….. which is a bit worrying

 

[The Poot]

The mind boggles…

 

[Erichalfbee]

The mind boggles…

Yes but it’s not the market we aim for is it?

 

[Erichalfbee]

Honey on sale at Lidl, 75p for a 340g jar.
Labelled Produced in UK, produce of China.
How does that work?

How much does a decent cup of coffee cost in Conwy, Peter?

 

[The Poot]

Yes but it’s not the market we aim for is it?

No. I was boggled by what sort of “significant change” via “a process” has been carried out to already dubious honey.
What exactly is in the jar?

 

[Erichalfbee]

No. I was boggled by what sort of “significant change” via “a process” has been carried out to already dubious honey.
What exactly is in the jar?

I think it’s more likely to involve assembly. A tank of syrup from China ( labelled 蜂蜜) jarred lidded and labelled.

 

[Newbeeneil]

I was looking at Waitrose branded honey today and the only indication of provenance was “produce of more than one country” is that an allowed description?

 

[enrico]

It might make good food for the winter feed for the bees.

ONLY JOKING!

 

[fian]

These days the controversy in the EU comes from the other side of the Atlantic, it seems that Brussels and Mercosur have reached an agreement for free trade in goods, while the governments of Spain and Germany show each other a favor, in the French government of Macron. leads the negative position.
The problem is that for European farmers and ranchers the restrictions are much greater than in South America, so it is likely that tons of food will arrive with chemicals that the EU has banned but are legal in Mercosur.
According to one of the ministers of the Spanish government, there is no need to worry that it is only a beef fillet per pardon and year.
https://www.elmundo.es/economia/macroeconomia/2024/12/09/67570d9afdddffaaa28b4593.html

 

[fian]

While the Chinese import New Zealand honey, they export theirs to the rest of the world, particularly the UK (25%). Fair trade? in whose pocket?
https://api-portal.com.ar/mercado-de-la-miel-en-la-republica-popular-china/

 

[ericbeaumont]

It might make good food for the winter feed for the bees.





JOKING!

Someone will read that, not understand the joke, go ahead and do it, so I'll repeat the story from the other thread on a similar topic:

Better not suggest it, even in jest: not that long ago a novice North London beekeeper found his bees starving, was unaware of the risk, fed them supermarket honey and had to dig a hole and burn the lot when the SBI diagnosed AFB.

 

[enrico]

Someone will read that, not understand the joke, go ahead and do it, so I'll repeat the story from the other thread on a similar topic:

Better not suggest it, even in jest: not that long ago a novice North London beekeeper found his bees starving, was unaware of the risk, fed them supermarket honey and had to dig a hole and burn the lot when the SBI diagnosed AFB.

Well! That told me off. If that is what you think of my comments I think I will stop posting at all


STILL JOKING

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I was boggled by what sort of “significant change” via “a process” has been carried out to already dubious honey.

it's just part of the definition - it's an 'or' rather than an 'and' it's to cover thing such as meat imported in large lumps, then butchered/minced/ cut into family sized 'joints' then sold as 'British' beef/pork/lamb.
I remember open pallets full of beef just removed from the bone coming off the ferry at Fishguard then trucked up to a processing plant near me at the end of the M4 to be packed in little polystyrene trays clingfilmed for onwards sale at mini markets and labelled 'product of the UK'
Not going to name the plant as it's still running and I know a few who work there - but it hit the press a few time for its dubious practices

 

[The Poot]

it's just part of the definition - it's an 'or' rather than an 'and' it's to cover thing such as meat imported in large lumps, then butchered/minced/ cut into family sized 'joints' then sold as 'British' beef/pork/lamb.
I remember open pallets full of beef just removed from the bone coming off the ferry at Fishguard then trucked up to a processing plant near me at the end of the M4 to be packed in little polystyrene trays clingfilmed for onwards sale at mini markets and labelled 'product of the UK'
Not going to name the plant as it's still running and I know a few who work there - but it hit the press a few time for its dubious practices

One of the first Asian hornets was found in cauliflowers in Lincolnshire, sold as “British produce”. But it turned out they came from abroad and the folks in Lincolnshire just cut the stalks off and were then able to designate them “British”.
Just another stupidity of the prevailing laws!

 

[fian]

One of the first Asian hornets was found in cauliflowers in Lincolnshire, sold as “British produce”. But it turned out they came from abroad and the folks in Lincolnshire just cut the stalks off and were then able to designate them “British”.
Just another stupidity of the prevailing laws!

In Spain, although the % and origin of the honey must be indicated in the mixtures, this requirement can be eliminated if the honey of Spanish origin constitutes more than 50% of the mixture and can be "completely Spanish" if the contribution exceeds 65%.

 

[peterbees]

How much does a decent cup of coffee cost in Conwy, Peter?

£3 upwards and you get to enjoy the ambience of Conwy free of charge. You can spend all day wandering around the World Heritage Site.

 

[Erichalfbee]

£3 upwards and you get to enjoy the ambience of Conwy free of charge. You can spend all day wandering around the World Heritage Site.

Conwy is lovely....I agree. My point was that for the price of an upmarket coffee you can have a jar of proper honey