Is foundation less beekeeping the way for would

[Andre cardona]

Is foundation less beekeeping the way for would for us all We need clean wax. Not contaminated foundation ?

 

[Hivemaker.]

Yes if you want to...or make your own foundation.

What problems have your bees encountered with commercially produced foundation?

 

[Andre cardona]

Yes if you want to...or make your own foundation.

What problems have your bees encountered with commercially produced foundation?

I'm thinking it not clean it's recycled and how about diseases and chemical biled up.

 

[Hivemaker.]

I'm thinking it not clean it's recycled and how about diseases and chemical biled up.

What particular diseases have your bees had problems with, which you think may of been caused by the foundation you have used?

 

[Andre cardona]

What particular diseases have your bees had problems with, which you think may of been caused by the foundation you have used?

No my bees have no problems just that wax may be contamiated is wot I'm thinking ?

 

[domino]

No my bees have no problems just that wax may be contamiated is wot I'm thinking ?

I'm not sure anything can live once they melt it.

 

[user 6228]

I'm not sure anything can live once they melt it.

The argument is usually about pesticide residues.
but i think the argument usually glosses over the details of the transfer and accumulation mechanism.

 

[domino]

The argument is usually about pesticide residues.
but i think the argument usually glosses over the details of the transfer and accumulation mechanism.

Ah okay, I assume even new comb would be contaminated by whatever the bees bring in?

 

[Andre cardona]

Ah okay, I assume even new comb would be contaminated by whatever the bees bring in?

Yes or wotever the bees have. And melting it will not help. And we import beeswax from all over the world to make awer foundation.?

 

[Dishmop]

This year I m going to experiment with using a piece of mesh instead of wax foundation in a frame in my obs hive. Just to see what they do.

 

[user 6228]

This year I m going to experiment with using a piece of mesh instead of wax foundation in a frame in my obs hive. Just to see what they do.

try both wax coated and un wax coated... the non wax coated may be chewed through...

 

[Margaret Elisabeth]

Ah okay, I assume even new comb would be contaminated by whatever the bees bring in?

The real concern should be about accumulation of pesticide within recycled wax whether foundation or comb made entirely by the bees. So we may have to think further than just going foundationless and think in terms of how to modify practice to minimise residue build up.

 

[thorn]

Are we getting a little precious about this?

 

[Tom Bick]

The real concern should be about accumulation of pesticide within recycled wax whether foundation or comb made entirely by the bees. So we may have to think further than just going foundationless and think in terms of how to modify practice to minimise residue build up.

its not just pesticides a good number of the chemicals are the ones beekeepers put in the hives.

You only have to smell some of the cheap wax foundation from some retailers to realize something is not right.

 

[Dishmop]

try both wax coated and un wax coated... the non wax coated may be chewed through...

not if its floor mesh.

 

[Margaret Elisabeth]

its not just pesticides a good number of the chemicals are the ones beekeepers put in the hives.

You only have to smell some of the cheap wax foundation from some retailers to realize something is not right.

Well I was using the term pesticides to mean anything that kills any pest, including pests that we beekeepers try to control.
You only have to look back to the cumulative effects of DDT and other pesticides to see that accumulation is the killer for larger animals as well as the pests we try to control, so it would seem to be sensible to limit the accumulation, in the hive, of any pesticide as well as the enviroment in general.

 

[domino]

Are we getting a little precious about this?

Be interested to see any actual research as to the impact of recycled wax on bee health.

 

[pargyle]

Is foundation less beekeeping the way for would for us all We need clean wax. Not contaminated foundation ?

Might want to read thourgh this thread ..

http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=27494&highlight=foundationless

 

[Andre cardona]

The real concern should be about accumulation of pesticide within recycled wax whether foundation or comb made entirely by the bees. So we may have to think further than just going foundationless and think in terms of how to modify practice to minimise residue build up.

This is wot I was thinking

 

[Andre cardona]

Might want to read thourgh this thread ..

http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=27494&highlight=foundationless

Thank you il have a look