Importing from China

[Millet]

 

[Erichalfbee]

Why the Hell would you?

The honey's not up to much though

 

[Beefriendly]

Yes, I understand about affordability and price. But it should also be about keeping jobs in Britain. Shouldn't it?

It's also about not getting ripped off.
I can buy a stainless steel hive tool from China for £2.78 including postage.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282054001292?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
I've bought these in the past and they are identical to these that retail at one our major bee suppliers for £15 PLUS postage.
https://www.thorne.co.uk/hardware/tools?product_id=1810.

That is some mark up!

 

[Millet]

The honey's not up to much though

By all accounts the oranges are though..

 

[Hivemaker.]

This country is rich, so giving all the financial support to a poor yet growing country like China is good, we also send them ££££millions in aid.

 

[chrisb]

think this all miss leading slightly.
should it not be has anyone had bad experience " buying " from china
Importing in its term is something totally different and usually relates to orders of bulk and value

if you buy something from China value of say £30 and it is not correct then tough. try getting your money back,

 

[chrisb]

Yes, I understand about affordability and price. But it should also be about keeping jobs in Britain. Shouldn't it?

Don't get me going about The Donald. Make America Great Again, fix all the Bad Deals with China, but buy all the steel for your palaces from the Chinese. Go figure!

ABSOLUTELY spot on, thank you so so much M.P. the words right out of my mouth

I listened to people moan that a company has closed, I have asked what did you get from them, the reply of usually bits and bobs all the stuff I could not get of flea bay from China.

Any bloody wonder they closed ???????

 

[wightbees]

I was talking in bulk, but as always it's gone way off topic.
although I have now got what I need I will continue looking for future buys though.

 

[chrisb]

It's also about not getting ripped off.
I can buy a stainless steel hive tool from China for £2.78 including postage.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282054001292?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
I've bought these in the past and they are identical to these that retail at one our major bee suppliers for £15 PLUS postage.
https://www.thorne.co.uk/hardware/tools?product_id=1810.

That is some mark up!

Yes and No
the china one is stainless steel and will be the lowest grade of such.
the thorn one is chromed hardened and tempered steel so totally different tools

the china tool will be cold stamped and ground before someone on a bowl of rice a day dips the end in a bucket of paint.

the thorn one will be hot stamped, sent to heat treatment to temper before going to be hardened either case hardened or cyanide hardened, then after all that through a cleaning bath before being chromed. then painted

so sorry if you are going to say big mark up try comparing like for like just to be fair, but saying that they could be made in china and still a big mark up but not as much as you would think

also there is the Royal Mail China contract, for us to send say the china made tool through the post due to its weight would cost us £1.20 to UK destination for us to send to China would cost us £ 3.65, royal mail economy so even our postal service works Against British Buisness

 

[chrisb]

I was talking in bulk, but as always it's gone way off topic.
although I have now got what I need I will continue looking for future buys though.

Ah then the answer from us is , never a problem
if VAT registered get a turn number from the vat office it helps to speed things up through customs as long as they put it on the shipping dockets

first couple of orders they will want payment up front after that they might offer a 50/50 pay 50% and 50% on arrival, this can be done through the bank on a import transfer, or find a import handler you hand the details over to them and they sort everything for you

 

[Finman]

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About stailess steel production

http://www.worldstainless.org/Files...less_Steel_in_Figures_2016_English_Public.pdf

 

[mazzamazda]

I buy loads from China, have to get it sent to the UK to avoid article 9 + 10 of the contract for the foundation of the European community (Tariff + 50% of total amount). I then post to Portugal.

Nearly all queen cages come from China.

 

[viridens]

Yes and No
the china one is stainless steel and will be the lowest grade of such.
the thorn one is chromed hardened and tempered steel so totally different tools

the china tool will be cold stamped and ground before someone on a bowl of rice a day dips the end in a bucket of paint.

the thorn one will be hot stamped, sent to heat treatment to temper before going to be hardened either case hardened or cyanide hardened, then after all that through a cleaning bath before being chromed. then painted.

Blimey. I hacksawed and filed mine out of a a bit of mild steel about 25 years ago using a 'real' one as a template... It has a nice patina now.

 

[Stiffy]

It's also about not getting ripped off.
I can buy a stainless steel hive tool from China for £2.78 including postage.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282054001292?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
I've bought these in the past and they are identical to these that retail at one our major bee suppliers for £15 PLUS postage.
https://www.thorne.co.uk/hardware/tools?product_id=1810.

That is some mark up!

Bought 6 of these, hopefully last me a year. They don't break, I just lose at least 4-5 a year!
S

 

[sherwood]

A good few of the items you will see in uk suppliers M'more, Ts N,tional and others have been sourceed from China in the first instance I can instance Queen cages in particular.
I have also bought beekeeping items directly form China via Ebay grafting tools cups for cup kits etc. and have had no problems what so ever in fact I could recommend them over other supplies UK sourced that have not been so well made and without some inordinate markup being applied by the UK suppliers.
Dont get wrong I wouldn't consider sourcing the more expensive kit directly as I would like to have a UK source to get back to in the event of some failure.

 

[Beefriendly]

Yes and No
the china one is stainless steel and will be the lowest grade of such.
the thorn one is chromed hardened and tempered steel so totally different tools

I have both types and can discern no physical differences between them, they are same size, same look and same red paint....whilst it lasts. If I didn't know better I'd have thought that throens had bought them from the same source I get my cheapo ones. Which despite (if you are right) being made of a totally inferior alloy do exactly the same job as the more expensive ones. They appear to be identical tools in all practical respects.
I think feeding a china-man is quite important....they can't work on an empty stomach.

 

[Finman]

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I am not going to spend my life with hating Chinese products. They are welcome. There are so much other countries then what you can hate.

Some year ago EU banned Chinese clothes import.

The sellers shouted: Hello hello!!! We have ordered and payed the clothes a year ago. What we sell now!!! Are our money gone! Clothes should be in time in shops that we get our money back!

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[For want of a better word]

Bought 6 of these, hopefully last me a year. They don't break, I just lose at least 4-5 a year!
S

Me too.... my huge boat tool recovery magnet will find them even in tall grass... Chinese "stainless" seems to be magnetic!


Yeghes da

 

[Finman]

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I use these in hive nursing. Swedish innovation but propably made in China

£ 2/piece.

In Ebay 1 €/piece.

You may pay 90€ too / piece if you want.
https://ad.knivesandtools.com/en/ct/mora-knives.htm?gclid=CJX6v5HAqNICFU1kGQodOzkKrw

I get them more every day when one disappers.

Every workman has this kind on his waist.

 

[Nige.Coll]

Bought a microscope eye piece usb camera from e bay, it came from china it was cheap, it was crap.