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theboynelson

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Hello,

I am quite new to the site, it is a real treasure trove of ideas.

I have been given an old tin honey extractor, it all still works fine but of course food regulations state that they should only be stainless steel or food grade plastic. Is there something that I can spray into the extractor to safely line it or am I going to have to just get a new one and sell it on eBay as an antique?

Many Thanks

Mark
 
Only needs to be food grade if you want to give or sell to other people. If your going to eat it all yourself then use it as it is. Beekeepers used tin extractors for many years.

Baggy
 
Only needs to be food grade if you want to give or sell to other people. If your going to eat it all yourself then use it as it is. Beekeepers used tin extractors for many years.

Baggy

And there was lead in petrol for years too
 
They are more trouble thn they are worth. The metal reacts with the honey and turns it black, ditch it and get a new one. Trust me I used one for years, when I get a plastic one it cut my extracting time and I knew the honey was good an clean, would never go back!
E
 
If you can find a food grade paint or some specialist coating but would check with food safety standards people
 
Thanks very much for that, I'll probably wait until the winter and get myself a new one. I am hoping to sell some of my honey next year. You have reaffirmed what I already knew deep inside.

Thanks again.

Mark
 
How can I make an old tin extractor useable?

punch a few holes in the bottom, fill with potting compost and pack with bee friendly plants :D

That's actually quite a good idea. I have one and an old ripener moldering in the shed which would both look good with plants in them. Mmmmm. I see a bee themed new bit of garden coming along in the Autumn. Just need to negotiate the lawn removal with HWMBO......
 
So let’s try another approach.

Yes stainless is best and plastic is slightly less best and personally I can’t stand the stuff and tin plate is at the bottom of the list, but

If all you can afford or have available is tin plate then use it,
Simple rules apply, untreated its best for home consumption only as no one wants you to sell bad honey,
personally I used a 1960’s tin plate 9 frame radial for donkeys years without any issues, all I did with mine is to line the insides and the frame holding mechanisiam, there are several choices you can use , and I expect the doom and gloom lot will of course slate everyone of them as toxic and have me shot at dawn ,,,twice!!
One way it to powder coat the whole lot, for cash and a good job, done out in white you are proberly looking at around the ton mark maybe more or less depending on what’s local, my wine/apple press is formed from a cut down gas cylinder and we have used it for well over ten years now with no problems, let us just put into perspective that we are not storing honey here it is just passing through the system so minimal residual time in it.
No local powder coaters nearby, then lets order something on line then, try any of the fiberglass material suppliers, I won’t name names but the costs and material are all pretty well the same, what we are looking for is some form of “potable water lining system”, anything suggested for water tanks etc is perfectly fine to use , easy to mix up and paint the whole lot, but remember we only have to do the insides only the outsides can be done with normal enamel, this is what I did to use my old extractor, the costs were around about the £50 mark and that’s including delivery,
We can of course just use a food grade quality paint if you wanted to which is even simpler to apply.

As for going onwards why not use it as a template? find a new bestist ever best friend, that also owns a mig/tig welder and can do stainless and use the old on as a template to make a newer and even better version.
Looking to invest in a new one, try thinking for once rather than joining the crown stood outside a uk bee shop try Google translate for” honey extractor” and GERMANY EBAY, I brought a motorized 12 frame stainless steel extractor with delivery and postage for £500 , try finding that quality in the uk for that price!

And just to satisfy the doom and gloom lot who are about to start loading their rifles for the morning, yes stainless is best and plastic is just as good and tin plate is bad
 
Sorry Pete (please forgive me) BUT
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the innards are made from galvanised, or tin plated steel, so changing the 'barrel' wouldn't actually achieve much.

I did that with mine. It works fine but the plating is on its way out and I've noticed a very slight metallic 'taint' to the honey this time round (I haven't had enough to sell). Just bought a reasonably cheap 2-frame plastic bin-type one with a placcy cage. Plus point is that it takes all different sizes of frame so can use with my Dartington as and when it's occupied; the old one only took standard honey supers. Mind you, I'm going to miss the old one as I could take the handle off and stick a drill on the shaft!
 
can't get them powder-coated, the heat used in the process melts all the solder in the joints ;)
 
So let’s try another approach.

Yes stainless is best and plastic is slightly less best and personally I can’t stand the stuff and tin plate is at the bottom of the list, but

If all you can afford or have available is tin plate then use it,
Simple rules apply, untreated its best for home consumption only as no one wants you to sell bad honey,
personally I used a 1960’s tin plate 9 frame radial for donkeys years without any issues, all I did with mine is to line the insides and the frame holding mechanisiam, there are several choices you can use , and I expect the doom and gloom lot will of course slate everyone of them as toxic and have me shot at dawn ,,,twice!!
One way it to powder coat the whole lot, for cash and a good job, done out in white you are proberly looking at around the ton mark maybe more or less depending on what’s local, my wine/apple press is formed from a cut down gas cylinder and we have used it for well over ten years now with no problems, let us just put into perspective that we are not storing honey here it is just passing through the system so minimal residual time in it.
No local powder coaters nearby, then lets order something on line then, try any of the fiberglass material suppliers, I won’t name names but the costs and material are all pretty well the same, what we are looking for is some form of “potable water lining system”, anything suggested for water tanks etc is perfectly fine to use , easy to mix up and paint the whole lot, but remember we only have to do the insides only the outsides can be done with normal enamel, this is what I did to use my old extractor, the costs were around about the £50 mark and that’s including delivery,
We can of course just use a food grade quality paint if you wanted to which is even simpler to apply.

As for going onwards why not use it as a template? find a new bestist ever best friend, that also owns a mig/tig welder and can do stainless and use the old on as a template to make a newer and even better version.
Looking to invest in a new one, try thinking for once rather than joining the crown stood outside a uk bee shop try Google translate for” honey extractor” and GERMANY EBAY, I brought a motorized 12 frame stainless steel extractor with delivery and postage for £500 , try finding that quality in the uk for that price!

And just to satisfy the doom and gloom lot who are about to start loading their rifles for the morning, yes stainless is best and plastic is just as good and tin plate is bad

And after all that effort Pete it's probably cheaper to buy a new one from the big T, maise or or whoever and tip them 50 quid for the pleasure of doing business !!:D
 
A couple of supers of honey would pay for a brand new small extractor.

please let me know where you shop and or how much you sell your honey for, lol, only kidding,

the thing with the bigger post is that it does offer alternatives to the normal standard replys. i have proberly made more fifty gallon steel drum extractores with bycyle parts than i can remeber, the same with two frame spinners aswell, i must admit i am looking towards a new stainless steel extractor for next year but i definatly wont be going to a uk shop to buy it, and as for the other suggested place, i washed my hands of them after a situation earlier this year.

i did look into buying the materials to make my own as well and basicly due to lack of certain tools it works out about the same sorts of cost, the only real difference would be the fact that, my home made vertion would contain slightly stronger construction materials and a must more powerfull motor drive
 

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