GM crops

[Hivemaker.]

Am I alone in thinking that we are much less clever than we think we are?

I don't think your alone, i think we are all idiots.

 

[bontbee]

Nice one.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Some of the Dutch are there now with their huge water pumps, and it was Dutch engineers that helped drain the levels in the 17th century, but they went home afterwards and left our lot in control, things went downhill from there on.
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I realise that this may seem a bit remote from GM, but it is all part of the misapprehension that "we" ie humans, can control nature.

Taking current events as an example, we bring it on ourselves and then fail to see the bigger picture. Easy to blame the farmers, the developers and, dare I say, the Env Agency....

we have drained natural sponges, (peat bog/wetlands),
we have improved pasture that used to hold back water, (rough hill "pasture"),
we have intensively grazed that land which used to slow run off, with animals that compact the soil, (nb. sheep were used to "puddle" clay to create impervious linings for ponds!),
we have converted vast acreages, (at least in Wales) to "grow" coniferous imports which don't create rich, open humus that sucks up and holds water, as native woods do,
we have allowed huge areas below the hills to be developed with tarmac , slate and concrete with no thought to intercept run off, (until recent legislation required it)
we have constructed many of these tarred/concreted areas on what were natural flood plains,
we have dredged, canalised and contained natural watercourses with flood defences, and then wonder why so much water ends up further downstream all of a sudden

Am I alone in thinking that we are much less clever than we think we are?

I don't think your alone, i think we are all idiots.

I think you all are too

 

[mbc]

I don't think your alone, i think we are all idiots.

Quite clever idiots mind we have sent men to the moon.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Quite clever idiots mind we have sent men to the moon.

But did we?

 

[pargyle]

I think you all are too

Steady on ... this is turning into a mutual depreciation society !

 

[pargyle]

But did we?

Of course we did....there was a piece of moon rock on ebay last year .... you can only get it on the moon - starting bid of 99p !

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Of course we did....there was a piece of moon rock on ebay last year .... you can only get it on the moon - starting bid of 99p !

Don't worry if you missed the auction - got plenty more out the back since I demolished the pig sty (no point thinking of keeping pigs now, what with global warming it will be far too hot for them)

 

[Hivemaker.]

Morning idiots, was reading the morning paper last night, guess what...the government are bringing in a hosepipe ban now.


This is another one...http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rs-left-high-dry-mixed-water-regulations.html

 

[domino]

Morning idiots, was reading the morning paper last night, guess what...the government are bringing in a hosepipe ban now.


This is another one...http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rs-left-high-dry-mixed-water-regulations.html

Isn't that two years ago?

 

[Hivemaker.]

Isn't that two years ago?

I don't think so, although you could be right, but it's from next weeks news paper i think.

The link was from an old news paper from the past, about a drought.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Morning idiots, was reading the morning paper last night, guess what...the government are bringing in a hosepipe ban now.

Quite right too - if people stopped using hosepipes on their lawns and driveways there would be a heck of a lot less water running into our already swollen rivers!!

 

[Hivemaker.]

Quite right too - if people stopped using hosepipes on their lawns and driveways there would be a heck of a lot less water running into our already swollen rivers!!

Yes i believe the thinking behind the ban is more to do with rising sea levels, the Dutch are using huge hosepipes to pump water into our already swollen rivers, they flow out to sea and cause the sea level to rise, which could lead to severe flooding in many areas.

 

[Hivemaker.]

Quite clever idiots mind we have sent men to the moon.

I have been giving this statement some thought, and your not the first person to mention it...too the moon, yes i would agree, but actually land on it, no.
I have gazed up at the moon many a time, and after much serious thought over the years, i came to realize that the stories about landing on it had to be a hoax, for one or two obvious reasons.

 

[domino]

I have been giving this statement some thought, and your not the first person to mention it...too the moon, yes i would agree, but actually land on it, no.
I have gazed up at the moon many a time, and after much serious thought over the years, i came to realize that the stories about landing on it had to be a hoax, for one or two obvious reasons.

It's made of cheese and the rockets would turn it into a giant fondue?

 

[mbc]

I have been giving this statement some thought, and your not the first person to mention it...too the moon, yes i would agree, but actually land on it, no.
I have gazed up at the moon many a time, and after much serious thought over the years, i came to realize that the stories about landing on it had to be a hoax, for one or two obvious reasons.

**** Pete, hang on in there, its nearly Spring.
I'll send you some dried frog pills to keep you going.

 

[mbc]

It's made of cheese and the rockets would turn it into a giant fondue?

 

[madasafish]

Originally Posted by Hivemaker.

It's made of cheese and the rockets would turn it into a giant fondue?



Which explains why the Chinese moonlander is stuck motionless...

 

[charlievictorbravo]

There is no risk to bees or honey, I wouldn't worry.

Well this is an old thread but I came across something in the BBKA News for December that caught my eye and when I followed it up I found this:
http://www.bampton.org.uk/temp-pdf/HoneyandGM.pdf

There may not be a risk to the bees but there certainly appears to be a problem with honey that contains the pollen of GM crops.

The German beekeeper who sued the landowner where GM maize trials were being conducted found he had GM pollen in his honey and in the pollen that he collected and none of it was not saleable. If any beekeeper hears of such trial near his/her apiaries, alarm bells should start to ring.

CVB

 

[domino]

Well this is an old thread but I came across something in the BBKA News for December that caught my eye and when I followed it up I found this:
http://www.bampton.org.uk/temp-pdf/HoneyandGM.pdf

There may not be a risk to the bees but there certainly appears to be a problem with honey that contains the pollen of GM crops.

The German beekeeper who sued the landowner where GM maize trials were being conducted found he had GM pollen in his honey and in the pollen that he collected and none of it was not saleable. If any beekeeper hears of such trial near his/her apiaries, alarm bells should start to ring.

CVB

Why wasn't it sellable?