Finman

[Finman]

- Selecting what ---> good layers and good pastures.

I see where you are going. So they gave varied amount of crop because they were on a different location.

I am used to think the opposite way - i search the poorest environment and then i keep my eye for the best hives. The selection is pretty useless in a areas with good honey flows , and sometimes impossible.
It is not always about the size of the colony, busy or not, it's about working smart. The bees use different tactics for foraging, and most often that makes a BIG difference.

Sorry, but you did not understand anything.

I may think as opposite way as you like.

(Oh dear) Quite an insult that I am not able to select good bee strains.

During 50 years I have kept tens of different bee strains and I test them continuously by buying new queens from different professional beekeepers.

I do not breed queens myself. I use others' material My yard is too small to own breeding. I prefer to by couple of queens from guys who has over 300 or 500 hives. Some have 1000 hives.

It is much more easier to find good mother queens from a 500 hives' gang than 15.

Then, if you keep your own genepool, soon you have inbreeding problem, what you do not notice before it is too late.

But tell me when you get average yield 100 kg/hive. You do not get it ifg you carry your hives to "dry pastures". The price of your own queens will be too high. Your text is nonsence.

When you rear your own queens, you must sacrifice every year at least one good productive hive. Own queens are not free. It is about 100 kg honey and much money. 100 kg x 6 euros = 600 euros

But if you are going to generate selecting material from dry pastures, that I call brainless suicide.

How many hives you are going to put onto poor pastures where even one hive is too much?

5 hives is not much. 20 hives is something....

5 hives x 100 kg x 6 euros = 3000 euros. That is a price of your queens?

From free markets you can buy 100 mated queens with that sum.


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[Finman]

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Where I am going.... to grave yard...

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[Chris Luck]

Haven't you got any friends to talk to?

Chris

 

[oliver90owner]

Another point missed or ignored - many one- and two-hive owners are simply very basic hobbyists who do not move their colonies from their gardens, where docility is the overriding trait required. I recognise your response was to a specific post, but the above applies to swathes of this thread?

 

[Finman]

Another point missed or ignored -....hobbyists who do not move their colonies from their gardens,?

I do not understand why missed or ignored?
Should I keep my hives in garden or should others move their hives like me?

I do not understand the idea.

When I started my beekeeping, I moved my hives 15 km by bicycle. - Is't that funny. Then I handled the job with moped, which had carry,

I nursed 18 hives with moped, when I studied in university.

And nowadays professional beekeepers say that I should keep my hives steady in woods when I collect they into cottage garden every autumn.

Then I keep my hives near my house and heat hives in spring with electrict. Alnost all beekeepers say that I should not heat my hives with electrict, because they do not do.

And finally, I should not extract my honey yield and sell the honey.

I do not ask what I should do. I clearly know, what I do.

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[Finman]

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This is exactly the moped model with which I started to nurse bees in year 1966.

Made in Norway.

 

[Itchy]

Keep at it Finman! Love your posts!

 

[Dishmop]

And nowadays professional beekeepers say that I should keep my hives steady in woods when I collect they into cottage garden every autumn.

Then I keep my hives near my house and heat hives in spring with electrict. Alnost all beekeepers say that I should not heat my hives with electrict, because they do not do.

And finally, I should not extract my honey yield and sell the honey.

I do not ask what I should do. I clearly know, what I do.

I wish I could be right all the time.

 

[Dishmop]

Finman's Law.

 

[oliver90owner]

In the UK, that is not a moped - it has no pedals!

Just another difference between Finland and the UK.... But, nevermind, it was close.

 

[Dishmop]

In the UK, that is not a moped - it has no pedals!

Just another difference between Finland and the UK.... But, nevermind, it was close.

Does that make it a no-mo-ped or a mo?

 

[REDWOOD]

This was my moped it had pedals but a complete waste of time. unfortunately no beehives strapped to the back only my lunch box

 

[TryingToLetThemBee]

In the UK, that is not a moped - it has no pedals!

Just another difference between Finland and the UK.... But, nevermind, it was close.

Sweden and the UK http://personal.inet.fi/koti/ari.lehtimaki/ec_topper.htm

 

[pargyle]

This was my moped it had pedals but a complete waste of time. unfortunately no beehives strapped to the back only my lunch box

Wasn't that the Suzuki that put an end to the 'high power' mopeds ... although it had pedals that actually would drive the back wheels it would only barely reach walking pace when you were pedalling furiously !! (and didn't they fold up as well ?). Later 'moped' regulations included speed limiters and limits on the BHP rather than just CC's. I seem to recall that these Suzukis, with just a bit of tweaking, could do about 60mph - drove a coach and horses through the 'moped' definition regs

 

[Finman]

In the UK, that is not a moped - it has no pedals!
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It was Norwegian and it had a pedal direction 7 'clock.

A Finnish moped was Tunturi , now called "Grand Pa Moped".

 

[Finman]

This was my moped it had pedals but a complete waste of time. unfortunately no beehives strapped to the back only my lunch box

I had this kind of carry behind the moped. It was self made and wheels were from mopeds.

 

[Finman]

Sweden and the UK http://personal.inet.fi/koti/ari.lehtimaki/ec_topper.htm

EH, that is wow story

 

[Itchy]

Mopeds had pedals until they were restricted to a very dangerous 35mph! ...happy days.....mostly spent broken down waiting for parents to pick us up

 

[Finman]

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Last summer I drove with car after moped, which went down to gently sloping asphalt with speed 53 miles per hour.
Then on horizontal part of road it went 47 miles per hour.

Moped are popular here again, and almost all are set up with unlegal way.

 

[oliver90owner]

almost all are set up with unlegal way

Maybe yet another difference between the two countries. Here in the UK one needs, by law, to have insurance cover to use a motorised vehicle in a public place, particularly on the road. Vehicles modified to avoid the regulations are usually voided for any insurance claim by the policy providers. Hence one is technically using a motor vehicle on the road with no insurance.