Extracting Set Up

[Beefriendly]

Cake is very dry...amazingly so.
yes there is some honey left in it...But...having been down fruit press route....bugger all in comparison......

 

[eltalia]

Cake is very dry...amazingly so.
yes there is some honey left in it...But...having been down fruit press route....
bugger all in comparison......

Agreed... we have also discovered leaving the cake above topbars
sees it get 'mined'
to virtually dust, a lot being recycled we suspect.

Bill

 

[BMH]

What's the view on 2x small extractors (8-20 frame??) compared to one large (30+ frame)?

I'd quite like opinions on this as well.

Trying to decide between Abelo 20 frame premium or 30 frame regular.


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[Goran]

Avg I have 40-60 colonies per season.. Manual 4 frame extractor, 3 persons in 2-3 days. Max we extracted little over 2 tons one somewhat decent season. Fork uncapper. Funnel, brush and metal can for removing bees from frames. At same time I check the status of the colonies. Same day returned frames in colonies. 2 apiary sites
Low cost, maximum effort ( now I sound as " Deadpool")..
These days when the rain stop will have to check is there any honey for me left.. and check how will show up new fork ( " reverse fork")..

 

[eltalia]

I'd quite like opinions on this as well.
Trying to decide between Abelo 20 frame premium or 30 frame regular.
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In any extraction line you'll know or should know decapping/cleaning
is the bottleneck in feeding any extraction - even for a 20frm'r I'd be
looking at some investment either in extra hands or a mechanised
decapper/cleaner.

Bill

 

[BMH]

I've pulled the trigger and gone for the automatic 30 frame extractor, Melliflow Pro, Steam Uncapping knife and strainer, all from Abelo.

I'll then add a hydropress later in the year to deal with the heather honey.

Thanks for all your input...

 

[eltalia]

I've pulled the trigger and gone for the automatic 30 frame extractor, Melliflow Pro,
Steam Uncapping knife and strainer, all from Abelo.

I'll then add a hydropress later in the year to deal with the heather honey.

Thanks for all your input...

Man 0 Man... THAT was quick!
Do let us (royal) know how that steamknife works out for you.

Bill

 

[Beefriendly]

Abelo steam knife in action...before and afterwards...note if cannot remove capped cells below the level of the frame (right hand side frame). Takes a few seconds between frames to warm up again, otherwise it drags and crushes cells rather than cleanly removing.

 

[BMH]

Next phase is where to put it all!!

3 options but only two are viable in the short term.

1. It all goes in the little lounge and stays there.

Pros:

1. It has a 55 inch TV.
2. The utility room is next door.
3. Its warm and well insulated.
4. It has large limestone tiles on the floor.
5. It's about 4m x 4m
6. Its about 2m away from where I can park the pick up truck.

Cons:
1. it's in the house
2. Theres a massive sofa that would need covering up.
3 Its in the house!!!




2. Mother in law has offered me use of her log cabin.

Pros:

1. Its incredibly well insulated (to the nth degree).
2. It's not in my house.
3. It has it's own power supply.
4. its 3.5m x 4m
5. It can be left all year without having to move it around.
6. its about a 15m walk from the pick up truck (not the best)

Cons:
1. It has a wooden floor so would need protecting with correx.
2. No water supply
3. It's at the mother in laws house




3. Build a log cabin in my garden, move all content from garage into log cabin and convert garage into extraction room:

Pros:
1. Can be designed from scratch.
2. Has concrete floor with central drain.
3. Is 2.5m x 5m
4. is a few metres away from where I can park the pick up truck
5. Has water and electricity supply
6. Can be fully insulated.
7. Has plenty of space to stack supers

Cons.
1. Cost
2. Had a rat problem that would need resolving with concrete
3. Means I need to dig a great big trench to get electric to the log cabin
4. Loss of storage space

That's just a brain dump for the time being.

I think option 2 is the way forward.

Any comments appreciated


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[Jimmy]

How are you transferring from the extractor to a settling tank?

 

[BMH]

How are you transferring from the extractor to a settling tank?

Extracting straight into buckets, then buckets into settling tank for time being

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[tom8400]

Good on you, I hope it all works out well for you that's a sudden bit of investment and you seem determined to make it work. I think I'd build a cabin in the garden specifically for the job

 

[BMH]

Good on you, I hope it all works out well for you that's a sudden bit of investment and you seem determined to make it work. I think I'd build a cabin in the garden specifically for the job

Thanks for the encouragement! Now need the bees to do the business!

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[Jimmy]

I've pulled the trigger and gone for the automatic 30 frame extractor, Melliflow Pro, Steam Uncapping knife and strainer, all from Abelo.

Thanks for the reply about extractor to tank transfer.

I need to upgrade my extractor and talked to Abelo at Beetradex and was also steered towards the 30 frame extractor, melliflow pro and steam wax uncapper.
I'd be interested to hear how you get on with the extractor

What's the strainer?

 

[Poly Hive]

If you are using buckets then a couple of bucket holders are invaluable.

PH

 

[BMH]

Thanks for the reply about extractor to tank transfer.



I need to upgrade my extractor and talked to Abelo at Beetradex and was also steered towards the 30 frame extractor, melliflow pro and steam wax uncapper.

I'd be interested to hear how you get on with the extractor



What's the strainer?

I'll keep you informed.

It's not to say I wont add anything in the future.

Depends how I decide to sell it all I guess.

I was surprised how little information was available on the extractors on YouTube. I'll post a vid.

Just a bog standard coarse strainer.

Will grab a bucket holder as well. Good shout

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[deemann1]

Sounds like a good investment as for the cabin it sounds expensive, you could get a corrugated steel shed and insulate it yourself behind ply would be alot cheaper

 

[BMH]

Sounds like a good investment as for the cabin it sounds expensive, you could get a corrugated steel shed and insulate it yourself behind ply would be alot cheaper

In going with option 2. Mother in laws log cabin. So it's free and comes with free electricity!

Any ideas for what's best to go on the floor? Maybe some lino?

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[stevebrowning]

Lino is cheap and easy to clean, make sure you measure it so it goes up the wall a bit all the way around to contain the water when washing down.

 

[BMH]

Lino is cheap and easy to clean, make sure you measure it so it goes up the wall a bit all the way around to contain the water when washing down.

Good tip. Thanks for that.

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