Empty Nest Syndrome...?

[BugsInABox]

No what RAB actually said was:



Ageing is an incredibly multifaceted concept and this statement very sweeping.

I’d thank gmonag for her well intentioned replies ( crazy or not) and also to RAB. But really, when gmonag describes negative feeling, what’s to be gained by a tone deaf doubling down which then culminates in negative personal descriptions. It advances the information sharing not one jot. Come on people; karma concepts existed for decades (edit: millennia ) before the millennials - opportunities to be kind (or not mean) are best taken.

 

[Finman]

I wonder if it’s analogous to apoptosis (programmed cell death).

No...

Wintered bees go work outside when young bees emerge and take their place at home work. Wintered bees are weak and die soon at work.

In summer bees live about 6 weeks and wintered bees 8-9 months. Fo you really need to know why bees die?

If I take wintered bees into queen cage with a queen, workers die after 2 days.

 

[Boston Bees]

Don't patronise me.

Everything you say agrees with what I said in my first post. Did you actually read it before deciding It was crazy?

I said "Possibly the queen failed, perhaps last autumn. The winter bees were not reared properly and everyone just died of old age." How is that different from what you have said so condecendingly?

I also said "Or, if varroa overan the colony they may have absconded." Again, how is that crazy or even not the same as you so unhelpfully explained?

What myths am I spreading?

You aren't spreading any myths. Your original post was perfectly sensible as well as being sympathetic to the original poster. It was clear what you meant by "died of old age".

Sadly, on the internet, some people cannot disagree with someone without also belittling them. They can do this thanks to the anonymity that the internet provides, and the physical distance, which prevents any of the consequences that might occur if they said such things face to face. We can only speculate on why they might feel the need to do this.

However, the good thing about the internet is that, if they do it repeatedly, you can just click the "Ignore" button on their profile!

 

[Finman]

Sometimes wintered bees die before they are able to rear new bees.

Often half of colony bees die in April in a week when they try to forage at too low temperatutes

 

[pargyle]

No what RAB actually said was:

Ageing is an incredibly multifaceted concept and this statement very sweeping.

RAB is right ... there have been experiments with winter bees where they are not exposed to brood rearing ... they have an ability to survive for more than a year ... the genetics of these bees is different as is their physiology, it had not been fully explained yet as far as I can see.

 

[BugsInABox]

RAB is right ... there have been experiments with winter bees where they are not exposed to brood rearing ... they have an ability to survive for more than a year ... the genetics of these bees is different as is their physiology, it had not been fully explained yet as far as I can see.

Well if he’d said that he’d be right. But he didn’t. Ageing is pretty multi faceted. Fin’s comments above for example would suggest some sort of change towards senilence wouldn’t it? They are different from their ‘younger’ comparators. ie older.
Anyway I get your point and RAB’s but the point was made so forecfully and with follow up that so disparaged any dissent my non-conformist soul compelled me to post.
Ageing is such a nebulous term (as is crazy for that matter) that we can be all right and all wrong at the same time. We all know what was meant and done at every stage in this thread.

For what it’s worth RAB’s generous willingness to share knowledge is what got me through my first spring summer and winter - have missed it and his amusing tone. Hope he continues and accepts being pushed back occasionally.

 

[Hachi]

For what it’s worth RAB’s generous willingness to share knowledge is what got me through my first spring summer and winter - have missed it and his amusing tone. Hope he continues and accepts being pushed back occasionally.

I learnt very early on that it is wise counsel to listen a little more to him [RAB] and one's learning will be accelerated. Assuming of course, one has the intellect to understand it.

 

[Erichalfbee]

I learnt very early on that it is wise counsel to listen a little more to him [RAB] and one's learning will be accelerated. Assuming of course, one has the intellect to understand it.

Yes RAB will never spoon feed you. I was terrified of him when I first joined but he is a lovely generous man and his practical knowledge is encyclopaedic. We would all do well to listen to him even though we might think the delivery challenging.

 

[pargyle]

Yes RAB will never spoon feed you. I was terrified of him when I first joined but he is a lovely generous man and his practical knowledge is encyclopaedic. We would all do well to listen to him even though we might think the delivery challenging.

I'd second that - He's usually on the money and has helped me a number of times ... value his advices - put up with his bedside manner - the advice is worth it !

 

[BugsInABox]

value his advices - put up with his bedside manner

Perhaps that could be added to his signature box.

Or all our signature boxes for that matter.

 

[BugsInABox]

Good to see B+ back too.

 

[gmonag]

Yes RAB will never spoon feed you. I was terrified of him when I first joined but he is a lovely generous man and his practical knowledge is encyclopaedic. We would all do well to listen to him even though we might think the delivery challenging.

Well, plenty of favourable character references. I'm sure you are all correct, but I take people as I find them.

 

[pete darbyshire]

That has been my take, on beekeeping, ever since my first season, when I was tutored by a very experienced fellow who most certainly knew his stuff.

trying to follow this post I feel I am being tortured by experienced beekeepers, not tutored

 

[pete darbyshire]

At the end of May all are deaf.

Mine are too, they wont listen to what I tell them to do!!

 

[Finman]

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Mine are too, they wont listen to what I tell them to do!!

That must be smartphone's idea.

 

[Finman]

Finnie ... we were getting a bit worried about you ... good to see you back ... out of hibernation - must be spring approaching.

I try to avoid stupid persons...

 

[Erichalfbee]

I try to avoid stupid persons...

I am heartbroken!

 

[pargyle]

I try to avoid stupid persons...

No change there then ?

But are they not the ones who benefit most from your great age and wisdom ?

 

[pargyle]

Oops

 

[Into the lions den]

I am heartbroken!

Is that because he avoids you...........OR is it because he does NOT avoid you?