cheapest place for empty nuc's

[beesleybees]

Hi guys,

looking for a supply of empty nuc's. Poly prefered for national/equivelent frames. will look at the wooden alternatives too. dont mind ordering from abroad either

thanx

 

[drstitson]

look at P*yn*s.

should have bought in the pre-xmas sale.

 

[region2]

look at P*yn*s.

should have bought in the pre-xmas sale.

Paynes!

 

[BKF Admin]

Region 2,there is a very good reason that members star out company names.

It's down to respect for the forum and it's rules...

 

[region2]

There's rules and there's rules - we obviously don't want Mr Payne to start a thread on here saying "Paynes are the best" but there can be nothing wrong with a response to a question "where can I get...?" with the answer being a company name or a link to said company. It's not advertising, it's helping people. This is a great forum but, IMHO, it is spoilt by this ridiculous and often inconsistent insistance on starring out company names etc. No other forum I have ever used (and I've used a few) has such a policy...

R2

 

[Polyanwood]

I don't agree with you Region. This forum is better for lack of advertising. You would be surprised by how persistent and sly some advertisers can be. People are paid by some companies to see internet fora like this very one with good product news.

 

[region2]

I don't agree with you Region. This forum is better for lack of advertising. You would be surprised by how persistent and sly some advertisers can be. People are paid by some companies to see internet fora like this very one with good product news.

Obviously you don't understand the difference between advertising and helping. We have to register and log on so offenders can be expunged easily and we have moderators and a reporting system for removing offending posts. Works on all the other forums I use...

R2 (did Latin at School but prefers an 'S' for a plural to help those that didn't!)

 

[MartinL]

I've said this before but;
I now know a chap in Stratford, keeps Buckfasts and makes hives as a buisiness,(cedar and deal). He made me some nucs (cedar, 5 frame),that will convert from DN to 14X12.
The idea being that I could raise/overwinter a small colony in the national and use the 14X12 next year for swarms. Think they'd be @£40-50, but I think a plain national nuc comes in @£35-40. They are good quality, just have to assemble them.

Problem would be postage!

 

[For want of a better word]

The correx ones mentioned in another fred were cheeper than chips... have not tried as yet ...... auntie has stopped my allowance for running off with her hairdresser!

 

[parkranger]

Region 2,there is a very good reason that members star out company names.

It's down to respect for the forum and it's rules...

Sorry but have to agree with Region 2 here. I agree that all members must adhere to forum rules but do we honestly think that by starring out every other letter that we are not conveying the actual name of the company?
It's akin to writing something down instead of speaking the answer. I see no degree of product or company endorsement in the posts, only helpful advice to a question from a fellow beekeeper. Maybe the rules need some review because to the newbie, the rule as interpreted is a bad rule. Only my opinion!!

 

[itma]

There's rules and there's rules - we obviously don't want Mr Payne to start a thread on here saying "Paynes are the best" but there can be nothing wrong with a response to a question "where can I get...?" with the answer being a company name or a link to said company. It's not advertising, it's helping people. This is a great forum but, IMHO, it is spoilt by this ridiculous and often inconsistent insistance on starring out company names etc. No other forum I have ever used (and I've used a few) has such a policy...

In essence,

However, I'd add my incomprehension of how my giving two RIVAL suppliers for different designs of nominally the same kit could possibly have been considered commercial promotion.

I'm a simple consumer.
I've learned a lot on this forum about the good and bad points of different bits of beekeeping equipment from different suppliers.
For which, my thanks.
I've learned of one supplier that should never be sent a deposit. But oddly, that consistent customer experience is not to be found in the Directory.
I think that the sharing of such experiences (good and bad) is a great benefit from the forum.
But the current implementation of the "non-commercial" policy seems to be demonstrating the absurdity of overly-literal enforcement.

By all means have a no-promotion policy, but the skill in implementing such a policy lies in the deftness, care and skill with which it is enforced - recognising the difference between overt promotion and constructively critical review.
The nutcracker lacks any such subtlety!
I think that whether a supplier is referred to as P's, Pains, P*yn*s or even Paynes is not the important point -- its what's being said that matters. A reference or review of ****'s product, without the means of recognising what is being discussed, is an all-round exercise in futility. And 'cloaking' the identity, so that only the cognoscenti recognise it is only likely to hurt those that could most benefit from the shared experience.

Its difficult, I know.
Its a lot more complex than ****ing asterisks.

In this case, I'd respectfully suggest that the problem lies in the asking of a purely commercial question by the OP.
And therefore that whatever 'moderation' would accordingly be better directed in that direction.
Is the question actually "As a (would-be) commercial supplier of nucs, I am looking for a large number of essentially disposable nuc delivery boxes - where (worldwide) can I buy them cheapest in order to maximise my profit?"
The question isn't about performance or user satisfaction - ONLY the commercial aspect.
Personally, I haven't a clue what the answer might be, but I fail to see how the question could possibly be answered non-commercially.
/And I suspect that the actual answer might depend on frame type and quantity ... all-in-all a pretty bizarre question, unless specifically intended to test the 'commercial' policy. Which again would be something to be brought up with the OP, rather than the respondents.

 

[region2]

Two sane responses - I was beginning to think I was the only person here who recognised the futility of the current 'system'...

R2

 

[drstitson]

I'm happy playing along with the starring for commercial concerns if only to keep the rest of the forum sane.

the alternative is crazy: On Drs.net we can't use the word RITA (Record of In-Training Assessment ), referring to a crucial part of specialist training as a bonkers ex-medic has threatened the forum with legal action if any mention of her is made on the forum. you can guess her name!

 

[psafloyd]

Sorry but have to agree with Region 2 here. I agree that all members must adhere to forum rules but do we honestly think that by starring out every other letter that we are not conveying the actual name of the company?
It's akin to writing something down instead of speaking the answer. I see no degree of product or company endorsement in the posts, only helpful advice to a question from a fellow beekeeper. Maybe the rules need some review because to the newbie, the rule as interpreted is a bad rule. Only my opinion!!

_ _ _ _ _ _ _

Did you hear that? I mouthed the name of a potential advertiser.

I think advertising would not necessarily be a bad thing IN ITS PROPER PLACE. That doesn't mean advertisers can put advertorial up anywhere they like – they have to pay for it. Just the same as running a publication.

However, I would rather have a well run and supported forum like this one. Not this one, obviously, but one like it...

 

[For want of a better word]

I'm happy playing along with the starring for commercial concerns if only to keep the rest of the forum sane.

the alternative is crazy: On Drs.net we can't use the word RITA (Record of In-Training Assessment ), referring to a crucial part of specialist training as a bonkers ex-medic has threatened the forum with legal action if any mention of her is made on the forum. you can guess her name!

|I have an Auntie Rita..... tried to get in the G*iness Book of Records for eating boiled eggs

 

[Marvin]

I like the forum so I accept the rules and work within them.

 

[weebee]

|I have an Auntie Rita..... tried to get in the G*iness Book of Records for eating boiled eggs

Was her name "Cool hand RITA"? If so I thnk I saw a film about her....

 

[region2]

I like the forum so I accept the rules and work within them.

Indeed but our British rules and regulations eveolve and change - so why can't this forums?

R2

 

[AnotherNewBee]

Indeed but our British rules and regulations eveolve and change - so why can't this forums?

R2

This is not specifically aimed at Region2, but more a summing up of the way I view the current situation with links.

The good news about this particular forum is that the owners/mods are open to suggestions and will refer them to the members for discussion. Once a democratic decision is made we (should) then stick to it for a reasonable time and until it comes up for discussion again.

Many other forum owners/mods will ban members who make suggestions or ask for changes that go against current rules. Certain Freecycle groups and their descendants (Freegle etc) spring to mind. I speak from experience. Some people should, simply, not be involved in running fora.

Allowing links to commercial organisations was discussed recently. The outcomes were that everything should remain pretty much as it is, and that the directory is underused. That's not the result I wanted for exactly the reason brought to light by this thread. Perhaps there'll be a different outcome if it's discussed again some time in the future. Until then, I accept that. I think it's too soon for it to start up again.

It is an excellent, and very well run, forum. Some things I don't like - but I can live with it the way it is.

If I ever post anything with a link that gets *ed out I'll be happy to reply to any PMs asking what the link was meant to be.

 

[The Cumbrian]

I admit that the stars did cause me problems at first but in general I now prefer the forum the way it is.

PMs can solve many of the problems.