Calibrated scales.

[Toadge]

Hello. Can anyone advise on makes of calibrated scales for weighing jars of honey?

 

[For want of a better word]

Hello. Can anyone advise on makes of calibrated scales for weighing jars of honey?

eBay item number:
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[Poly Hive]

Consult your trading standards, that's their job.

PH

 

[madasafish]

I use a Salter electronic balance : tested against 1kg of sugar/other known weights.. (approx £11) and then overfill by approx 5g..

(As a hobby beekeeper, I don't want to spend a lot.. but if running a commercial operation, I would do it commercially, weigh properly and not overfill )

 

[Anduril]

I have an Adam WBZ3 3KG 1g increments, now discontinued. If you need scales to sell honey, Trading Standards can advise and can point you in the direction of cheap ones on Ebay. You will not need a calibration certificate. The scales need to be trade approved, these ones will have an 'M' on the side of them. You will also find online UK companies as well. When I was looking I emailed TS with 2 I had looked at and both were acceptable as far as they were concerned.

 

[SDM]

Ex post office Avery digital scales pop up on Ebay regularly with so many post offices shut.
£30 should cover it.

 

[For want of a better word]

I have an Adam WBZ3 3KG 1g increments, now discontinued. If you need scales to sell honey, Trading Standards can advise and can point you in the direction of cheap ones on Ebay. You will not need a calibration certificate. The scales need to be trade approved, these ones will have an 'M' on the side of them. You will also find online UK companies as well. When I was looking I emailed TS with 2 I had looked at and both were acceptable as far as they were concerned.

Cornwall Trading Standards check ours,,,, They accept the M.

If you bottle 500 + in one go then you can opt to check weigh a sample but you must state this on your lot number records and record the weights.
Simpler to check weigh each individually.

Chons da

 

[Millet]

Personally i think you lot are going over the top with the trading standards rubbish..i have an £10 pair of electronic salter kitchen scales..i check the scales before use with my weights from my falconry balance scales which are very accurate..i then fill one jar to the required weight and look at the level it is at..i then fill all the other jars to the same level...simples..i could not be bothered with the faff on weighing every jar..

 

[Anduril]

Personally i think you lot are going over the top with the trading standards rubbish..i have an £10 pair of electronic salter kitchen scales..i check the scales before use with my weights from my falconry balance scales which are very accurate..i then fill one jar to the required weight and look at the level it is at..i then fill all the other jars to the same level...simples..i could not be bothered with the faff on weighing every jar..

Do you sell your honey?
Have you informed Trading Standards if you do?
Do you hand over a jar of honey for testing?
Do you have a level 2 food hygiene certificate?
They now want environmental health to check your premises.
Are the local councils going over the top?

 

[Millet]

Do you sell your honey?
Have you informed Trading Standards if you do?
Do you hand over a jar of honey for testing?
Do you have a level 2 food hygiene certificate?
They now want environmental health to check your premises.
Are the local councils going over the top?

Yes i sell Honey but i do not bother with the other rubbish..i don't even have my name on the jars i sell but the same folk keep coming back for more and i have a long waiting list from last years customers..so that will do for me..fook the nanny state carp..

 

[Eyeman]

Do you sell your honey?
Have you informed Trading Standards if you do?
Do you hand over a jar of honey for testing?
Do you have a level 2 food hygiene certificate?
They now want environmental health to check your premises.
Are the local councils going over the top?

Get real

A 56 per cent reduction in Trading Standards officers from 2009 – 2016 have left some services with just one qualified officer to cover the entire area

 

[Anduril]

Get real

 

[For want of a better word]

Do you sell your honey?
Have you informed Trading Standards if you do?
Do you hand over a jar of honey for testing?
Do you have a level 2 food hygiene certificate?
They now want environmental health to check your premises.
Are the local councils going over the top?

Over the top... not at all

Do not forget products liability insurance!!!!!!***

Sell something and you have a responsibility to your customer or the person you are "giving" the service or product to.

Must be fit for purpose... it is English Law.

If I am buying a liter of diesel or a pint of cider I need assurance that is what I am getting.... that is what trading Standards do... to protect the public from doddgy goods!

Yeghes da

*** do not take it for granted that you are automatically covered with a household policy....( or even the BBKA one that is very limited.)

 

[Toadge]

Cheers for the advice folks. Local traiding standards weren't much help, I'll just by trade scales with calibration certification ( play safe )

 

[For want of a better word]

Cheers for the advice folks. Local traiding standards weren't much help, I'll just by trade scales with calibration certification ( play safe )

Best idea!!
And keep records of lot numbers... TS love a paper trail!!
Chons da

 

[Beefriendly]

Cheers for the advice folks. Local traiding standards weren't much help, I'll just by trade scales with calibration certification ( play safe )

If it's any help buy a cheapish pair of electronic scales that will allow calibration. Also buy a certificated calibration weight, usually 500g (about 6 or 7 quid from Amazon).
As long as you calibrated before use you will be fine. It's dead easy and then you have shown due diligence. Keep a record of calibration dates if you wish.
The problem with all theses certificated scales is they need re- certificating at least once every 12 months or so (recommended is every 3 months)....and all they essentially do is add a calibration weight and calibrate to that. And it's not cheap getting this done.
It's honey we are selling here not diamonds or precious metals where grams make huge differences.

 

[Murox]

I very much doubt that there is a single keeper on this forum that gives short measure. I think most who do sell their honey actually give away several kilos worth each year by filling jars to the 'eye'. Realistically, how many 'hobbyists' set a jar on a scale and then fill it each time, or use a calibrated pump ?

 

[Beefriendly]

Yup...we give it away. It's why my labels state "Minimum Weight"...And my comb honey labels say weigh between 6-9oz (with the grams added as well).

 

[mike99]

Yup...we give it away. It's why my labels state "Minimum Weight"...And my comb honey labels say weigh between 6-9oz (with the grams added as well).

You get all sorts of "jobsworth" customers. a farm comes around the doors selling 25kg of potatoes. one year they offered a half sack but didn't have the correct weight printed on the bags. They just the original 25kg sacks. He got in trouble and was threatened with prosecution from TS for selling half a sack of potatoes in a full sack. He only charged half so some idiot took it on themselves to complain. It's not as if he was charged full price for a half sack.

 

[masterBK]

In honeyshows there is often one or two jars showing daylight between honey and lid. They are known as "yorkshire pounds" by the judges.