Wiring national deep frames

[buzzbutt]

Hi to all,
I will be making foundation and wiring into National deep DN4 frames with horizontal wires.
My question is what is best three or four horizontal wires, the only info or images I can find are all related to Langstroth frames, not national deep DN4 frames. Thanks in advance for any info or pointers.
Regards
Buzzbutt.

 

[BeeJayBee]

Try Dave Cushman's site http://www.dave-cushman.net/bee/framewiring.html He seemed to suggest two lines of wire or fishing line will be enough for national brood frames.

*Correction?
The diagrams on this page seem to suggest 4 lines of wire http://www.dave-cushman.net/bee/bsframesides.html

(With jumbo lang/dadant I use three, with a wider space between the top bar and the first line because I've found it's strong enough, and the mostly leave a gap towards the bottom bars.
Other bees, and other beekeepers, may do things differently.)

 

[pargyle]

I use three wires on 14 x 12 frames .. more or less equally spaced over the height of the frame - never had a failure even on new comb (and I'm foundationless).

 

[MuswellMetro]

three wires, on dead central and one an inch from top and the other inch from bottom, well thats what we did in the 1970's when i worked at Rothamsted at 2s/11d per hour student slave labour

 

[Finman]

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3 horizontal wires are good. I use in langstroth 2 wires, but it is not actually good.
Our frame seller said, that almost no one wants any more 2-wire frames.

.... I do not understand, why to use fishing line. How do you get inside the foundation?

I heat stainkess steel wires with ekectrict. I use 1000 W heating apparatus in the circuit. Many uses car accu loader to heat wires.

i use brood frames in supers too and I prefer, that there has been some brood, because combs stand better extraction.