What Is This Contraption

[Madge]

Oh No we HAVEN'T!

Learn to look, Martin, and understand what you see.

There are two follower boards - so, three colonies; there are two visible sets of entrances and, although there is not a photo of the other side of the hive, the fact that there are two follower boards means that there must be a set of entrances for the middle colony on the other side - so, three colonies with super deep frames (as seen on the photo).

 

[Finman]

LOL. Obviously you have not read the Facebook page. Your computer will translate from Swedish to English. You will find one is stacked on the other, creating 30 extra deep frames.

Does the guy know what he is doing.... Extra Deep.... How can you extract them?

 

[Anduril]

Does the guy know what he is doing.... Extra Deep.... How can you extract them?

That is simplicity itself. The frames are cable tied. Cut the cables and extract, even if you have to cable tie them into your extractor.

 

[Finman]

That is simplicity itself. The frames are cable tied. Cut the cables and extract, even if you have to cable tie them into your extractor.

Clever! Heh heh...

 

[Millet]

Learn to look, Martin, and understand what you see.

There are two follower boards - so, three colonies; there are two visible sets of entrances and, although there is not a photo of the other side of the hive, the fact that there are two follower boards means that there must be a set of entrances for the middle colony on the other side - so, three colonies with super deep frames (as seen on the photo).

I know what you meant and for me you where on the ball, like you i was also confused about the entrance for the middle block, obviously now i have read more into it they may well be on the other side, or back off the coffin hive.. lol

 

[TooBee...]

Wouldn't this idea be good for places that have very cold winters ... like that country that used to be part of Russia... forget it's name ;-)

The three colonies would generate heat in the winter, within the same hive, in part being able to share the heat amongst themselves, in fact if I understand it correctly, you don't need solid dividers, just a vertical queen excluder, kind of like a double queen system only treble queens and broods arranged horizontally, not vertically stacked.

 

[Anduril]

Wouldn't this idea be good for places that have very cold winters ... like that country that used to be part of Russia... forget it's name ;-)

The three colonies would generate heat in the winter, within the same hive, in part being able to share the heat amongst themselves, in fact if I understand it correctly, you don't need solid dividers, just a vertical queen excluder, kind of like a double queen system only treble queens and broods arranged horizontally, not vertically stacked.

In winter with vertical queen excluders you would end up with 2 dead queens, at worst 3, depends where the bees move in the hive. The queens would be abandoned as the bees move across and eat the stores.

 

[TooBee...]

Why are the bees not building comb from the bottom of those frames, at 13:00 into this video

youtube.com/watch?v=67v8XtvjtmM&list=PLel88sKoS0hTbSAJdHQPXzCeQb8wWTziH

you can see the rear of the beehive, and it seems to have a completely open rear entrance, a rat could climb in there, not to mention a hornet.

Or maybe that's the purpose, so that the beekeeper can see into the underneath of the hives frames and when he sees ... drone comb ? ... being built he knows his bees are thinking of swarming ? or maybe he can remove the drone comb and control varroa ? At least that's one interpretation that could be placed on it - in Russia / Ukraine I've heard of a large space underneath the bottom of the brood frames for these purposes.

 

[pargyle]

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Some guy have done concrete hive into face book.

There is no sign that the guy knows what real bee hive should be. So many basic things are wrong.

Now evebody is wondering that innovation. Pure joke.

This hive seems to work well for the bees .. not sure about how you extract with these deep frames but with well insulated hives the bees will draw them out. It's a static hive of course but it's one that's interested me for some time - there's bits of it I don't like but they could be modified. Not something I can do at present as we are still trying to move house next year but it's something I'm definitely going to try in the future. Perhaps as a 14 x 12 variant to start with.

http://thezesthive.com/

 

[Finman]

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Dadant is normal frame size in eastern European chest hives.

Nowadays eastern Europe buys huge amounts of polyhives from Finland.

 

[TooBee...]

Can someone please explain to me why he is using a divider made from Straw instead of a standard wooden board, here you can see it at 15:53

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67v8XtvjtmM&list=PLel88sKoS0hTbSAJdHQPXzCe+Qb8wWTziH

in looking through other YouTube videos you can clearly see it being used here at 2:23

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFAEnQKkvlc

is the straw for absorbing moisture, has it been soaked in anti-varroa stuff or to provide a home to .... ? or is it just more natural...

there's got to be someone on this forum that can understand what's being said!

 

[MartinL]

It consists of 2 long brood chambers one on top of the other.

Learn to look, Martin, and understand what you see.

There are two follower boards - so, three colonies . .
the fact that there are two follower boards means that there must be . . . . -

three colonies with super deep frames (as seen on the photo).

Deriving a skewed deduction from 50% of available data and your refusal to accept that your initial view was incorrect means you are blind to the remaining data and with it, the factual interpretation.

You jumped to a decision based on the follower boards alone.

We never see your imagined 2nd or 3rd colonies.

If you bother to watch the clip on U-Tube you will see that follower boards either side of the ONE colony are to allow it to expand, not to separate it from any imaginary colonies on the other side in the same hive.

Learn to look, Martin, and understand what you see..

I see a very large space with boards to reduce that space & allow expansion.

When someone goes into winter with double brood chambers they have 2 colonies with 2 Queens in one hive?
I think NOT

 

[Finman]

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Straw boards or matresses have been used for insulation.

 

[TooBee...]

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Straw boards or matresses have been used for insulation.

Hi,
But that doesn't make sense, in such a hive you do not want insulation between the colonies, as you want each colony to benefit from the others heat, so collectively they can reduce their consumption of honey in their generation of heat; it's why we don't put insulation between our stud walls in our houses, only in the exterior walls (and the ceiling and floors). Although maybe the beekeeper in the videos doesn't see it that way.

 

[Finman]

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Are you sure that hive has two colonies?

The movable wall is dummy board, and it needs insulation that heat does not escape to the empty room. Colony grows along summer.

I have had that type hives 50 years ago. I know how they work. When you reduce normal big hive in autumn, you do not have then there 2 colonies colony.

Like here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxRSk-mPVKc
you may fill the empty part with paper or what ever insulating material.

 

[MartinL]

Hi,
But that doesn't make sense, in such a hive you do not want insulation between the colonies,

There is ONLY ONE COLONY!

we don't put insulation between our stud walls in our houses, only in the exterior walls (and the ceiling and floors).

You may well be out of date there too! !

 

[TooBee...]

Ok,
now I think I understand, but I wonder if there is a significance about using straw, mmm?

Thanks.

 

[Madge]

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You jumped to a decision based on the follower boards alone.

We never see your imagined 2nd or 3rd colonies.
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Sigh . . .
I talked about the hive in Millet’s opening post and the link he gave to it a few posts later - not to any video of similar hives mentioned later.

Yes, I obviously based my opinion on the follower boards because they’re clearly set up to take three colonies. They’re flanking the middle section.

I have no idea how you can possibly think it is something else, or what that might be. It’s baffling.


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[Anduril]

Deriving a skewed deduction from 50% of available data and your refusal to accept that your initial view was incorrect means you are blind to the remaining data and with it, the factual interpretation.

You jumped to a decision based on the follower boards alone.

We never see your imagined 2nd or 3rd colonies.

If you bother to watch the clip on U-Tube you will see that follower boards either side of the ONE colony are to allow it to expand, not to separate it from any imaginary colonies on the other side in the same hive.




I see a very large space with boards to reduce that space & allow expansion.

When someone goes into winter with double brood chambers they have 2 colonies with 2 Queens in one hive?
I think NOT

This photo shows he was inspired to add an upper box, no colony in there and the you tube videos are a red herring as this is from a Swedish FB page.

 

[Anduril]

Deriving a skewed deduction from 50% of available data and your refusal to accept that your initial view was incorrect means you are blind to the remaining data and with it, the factual interpretation.

As you may not be on Facebook, here are a few more attachments. As my deduction was correct, one box on top of the other. Not a purpose built one, but inspired. Again I do not see a colony in THESE pictures. Your viewpoint is skewed after looking at you tube videos from another country. This is now 100% data from the Facebook page. His original boxes are multifunctional.