Very high varroah load

[Beefriendly]

what your original post said "If I see 3 a week on the notoriously inaccurate drop board I treat at the next window of opportunity. " if that's not intensive I don't know what is ?

Perhaps I didn't explain precisely enough what I meant by the next window of opportunity. I see two main windows a year, after the **** crop and during the June/July gap. In both cases just after supers have been removed for harvest. If that is intensive in your opinion then so be it....

What I disagree with is taking on the responsibility and health care of a colony of bees and knowingly allowing them to be parasitised and refusing to treat them. Then bragging about how they are still alive and claiming they are "healthy and fit".
That is just bullocks.
You are deluding yourself and doing your bees a severe disservice.
If you had to carry up to 8 bloodsucking parasites (each about the equivalent size of a desert plate) around with you...you might not die, but to then claim you are in excellent health is just pulling peoples plonkers.
Yes I can be abrasive, I don't tolerate fools easily.

Apologies if my "rant" upsets anyone, but I feel quite strongly about this issue. I'll say no more on the matter.

 

[pargyle]

Yes I can be abrasive, I don't tolerate fools easily.

Apologies if my "rant" upsets anyone, but I feel quite strongly about this issue. I'll say no more on the matter.

Good - because you are wrong.

And frankly, we've seen enough of your unpleasant posts in the past ...

Best get back under your bridge ...

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I keep hunting for the 'Like' button

 

[mbc]

I keep hunting for the 'Like' button

"Like"

 

[mbc]

Good - because you are wrong.

And frankly, we've seen enough of your unpleasant posts in the past ...

Best get back under your bridge ...

If people stopped quoting the troll some of us who've had the sense to use the ignore function might get away without reading the gash.

 

[pargyle]

If people stopped quoting the troll some of us who've had the sense to use the ignore function might get away without reading the gash.

I'm sorry ... I forget ... but I do redact some of it ...

 

[GaryB]

We need a "Rate" button like other forums, that way people can see at a glance who on the forum has a good reputation

 

[B+.]

We need a "Rate" button like other forums, that way people can see at a glance who on the forum has a good reputation

or, who has the most friends (or knows how to play the system).

 

[Erichalfbee]

I keep hunting for the 'Like' button

This?

 

[pargyle]

This?

I keep pressing it but nothing happens ?

 

[Hachi]

We need a "Rate" button like other forums, that way people can see at a glance who on the forum has a good reputation

I for one am disinterested in someones "good" reputation. Good sound advice is what's needed.

 

[GaryB]

I for one am disinterested in someones "good" reputation. Good sound advice is what's needed.

Yes indeed. But how do you know you are receiving "good sound advice" from a particular member? Surely, if all members were rated on their posts by the forum membership, that between them have a raft of experience, we could get some idea of who is talking b****cks, and who is giving "good sound advice". There are a multitude of opinions and advice given on this forum, and believe me, I read virtually all of them. They range from quite frankly, the absurd to complete common sense through experience and a sense of altruism towards other forum members. On the other hand, there are members on this forum that have their own agenda of self importance and arrogance in the face of generally accepted principals that leave me "gobsmacked". Therefore I think a rating system wouldn't be such a bad thing. I trust the majority of the members of this forum to be able to distinguish between crap and sound advice. Experienced members are able to sort the "wheat from the chaff", but "newbies" can find this forum a complete minefield, and positively off putting. By rating a members posts, at a glance, members can see a members "reputation" level, and decide if they want to take advice from that member or not. After all, if you don't have a personal agenda, and you are giving good advice that is rated highly by the membership, there is nothing to fear. Only the "trolls" will suffer.

 

[fatshark]

I fear that one man's troll is another man's insightful sage.
Who rates the rater ... ?

 

[Finman]

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Mostly beginner needs basic knowledge to understand what experts are saying.
That is why a beginner shooses often humbug advice because it is so easy to understand.

I have met on forum very loved beekeepers who deliver lots of rubbish advices.

But every one must use their own brains and gather experience, .... If they mind do that.

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[jenkinsbrynmair]

Q.e.d.

 

[Bunn]

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But every one must use their own brains and gather experience, .... If they mind do that.
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Exactly!

I've been on a few very busy forums in my time and I think that the occasional disagreement is healthy. It encourages people to (usually) justify their thinking and their point of view which helps newbies (like me) learn.

Through reading published material and gathering ideas from experienced bee keepers and then putting this into practice, we'll get there. We'll make mistakes, but we will get there!

 

[pargyle]

The difficulty with the 'rate' button idea is that you have no qualitative control over it ... if it is a subjective opinion that is freely available to anyone who joins the forum then you could find people rating the delivery of the advice rather than the actual advice.

Some of the best advice I have had on here has been delivered by people who have a reputation for a questionable bedside manner ... you have to look through the occasionally brutal words to recognise that the advice is good.

Equally, some very plausible posters continue to offer absolute rubbish advice, often totally inappropriate to the circumstances of the person seeking assistance.

In additition, there are so many 'right' ways to keep bees and an awful lot of 'wrong' ways that still work in some situations that you cannot always qualify what is good or bad.

I like the fact that there is diversity of advice available on here .. really bad ideas are usually challenged by someone and good advice is often supported with the 'I agree' button.

The best beekeepers, IMO, are those who think about what they are doing and do not simply blindly follow advice they are given or a particular person's doctrine, the diversity of solutions force you to think about the matter in hand and then follow your own path.

To 'rate' anyone in these circumstances could be grossly unfair - whether it is good or bad advice on here most posters add to the forum in good faith - and spend time to try and assist those who are seeking a way forward or a solution to a problem. We may not like the answers we see given and we are free to challenge or offer alternative ideas - but 'rating' someone else for what is provided freely ... I think not.

The forum has worked as it does for a long time now - people come and go - a few don't like the robust nature of it and leave - but you only have to look at the numbers on line at any time of the day and night to know that it attracts people, some stick around and participate, some stick around and lurk ... but it works.. If it ain't broke - don't fix it.

 

[enrico]

The trouble is most people like me post in good faith. If I believe what I am saying how will I ever know it is a load of crap unless someone tells me. That has happened in the past ( thanks RAB) and I have looked again at what and why I do something and if I realise I may be wrong I apologise. However there are good and bad ways of giving someone bad news!!!!
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[Brigsy]

So we need to go on a 'how to give good feedback' course

They actually exist!

A 'poo' sandwich.


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[Erichalfbee]

I keep pressing it but nothing happens ?

You pressed so many times the forum crashed last night