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[jenkinsbrynmair]

They sure do and got about two months to sort it..... anyone in their right mind buys poly now

Not everyone has got totally obsessed with the constant dripping about insulation and take a common sense approach.

 

[Cussword]

I suspect those if us who try to keep up-to-date have long ago abandoned our local association, unless its to socialise with a few mates. Unfortunately I'm not one for mingling with the WI crowd that dominates a lot of associations so I won't be the one to change their ideas.

I believe that I was the only member that talked about insulation and cosies, it fell on deaf ears. I brought up sublimating at a talk given by an author of at least two books. You would have thought I'd mentioned the devil himself.

Never mind eh.

 

[user 6228]

Not everyone has got totally obsessed with the constant dripping about insulation and take a common sense approach.

Yes people can do what they like in their hobby . What i object to the promotion and perpetuation of their often completely false justifications and their passing it off as gospel to the unsuspecting.

When someone makes statements that contravene common sense and even a simple understanding of heat transfer I cant remain silent even if sometimes the severity of the calumny makes me almost speechless!!!.

So if it appears to be a constant dripping you need to compare it to the flood of misinformation about heat transfer in relation to honeybees.

 

[user 6228]

East Yorkshire's winters are a lot colder than in South Wales

but depending exactly where you are it can be a lot lot wetter in South wales which in turn causes a greater heater loss despite higher temperatures

 

[user 6228]

I believe that I was the only member that talked about insulation and cosies, it fell on deaf ears. I brought up sublimating at a talk given by an author of at least two books. You would have thought I'd mentioned the devil himself.

Never mind eh.

I thought the talk I gave at Lancaster was well received?

 

[Gilberdyke John]

I believe that I was the only member that talked about insulation and cosies, it fell on deaf ears. I brought up sublimating at a talk given by an author of at least two books. You would have thought I'd mentioned the devil himself.

Never mind eh.

A few years ago I mentioned sublimation to an old hand and got a blistering response.
Nevertheless I tried it for myself with highly satisfactory results. I don't evangelise it but if anyone asks I'm happy to discuss it.
Same with insulation, I use cosies but it's not compulsory and if you don't that's fine too.

 

[B+.]

I don't evangelise it but if anyone asks I'm happy to discuss it.

Thats a very mature attitude.....perhaps, one which should be adopted more often (on a whole range of issues) on this forum.

 

[Swarm]

Not everyone has got totally obsessed with the constant dripping about insulation and take a common sense approach.

Getting to the point of stupidity now.

 

[Swarm]

South Wales colder than east Yorkshire? LOL.

 

[B+.]

Getting to the point of stupidity now.

Amen

 

[fatshark]

I attended a presentation from a Phd student that my local association helps to finance. Her work is pure research....a million miles from anything that could remotely be considered a commercial product....yet, what did I hear when it came to question time? A series of questions about what was the best varroa treatment to apply. I wonder whether we sat through the same presentation!
The format is always the same....an introduction where some committe member introduces someone they have never heard of and has no special interest in the subject, the guest speaker may just as well have been a visiting dignitary from another planet because few in the audience truly understand the matter being presented, then some polite vote of thanks and a round of applause....and the inevitable bout of socialising. I usually can't wait to get away from such gatherings! I suppose I'm a bit of a maverick and don't think like the others.

Not always B+ ... I talk regularly at BKA meetings, on a variety of topics, some heavy science and some out-and-out beekeeping. I've been pleasantly surprised how receptive some associations are. Several years ago I spoke at a home counties association one freezing dark winter evening and was stopped from leaving for well over an hour by a barrage of interested questions. Last week - another freezing night and with a 2 hour return drive ahead of me - I was both enthusiastically received and knowledgeably questioned.

This isn't always the case of course. But it's sufficiently frequent to give me some hope and certainly makes it worthwhile.

 

[linoleum bonypart]

Good climate ere in East Yorkshire .....still put Cosies on though

 

[B+.]

This isn't always the case of course. But it's sufficiently frequent to give me some hope and certainly makes it worthwhile.

I'm glad to hear it fatshark. I cringe when I hear some of the questions at these meetings.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

A few years ago I mentioned sublimation to an old hand and got a blistering response.
Nevertheless I tried it for myself with highly satisfactory results. I don't evangelise it but if anyone asks I'm happy to discuss it.
Same with insulation, I use cosies but it's not compulsory and if you don't that's fine too.

Thats a very mature attitude.....perhaps, one which should be adopted more often (on a whole range of issues) on this forum.

 

[Eyeman]

The format is always the same....an introduction where some committe member introduces someone they have never heard of and has no special interest in the subject, the guest speaker may just as well have been a visiting dignitary from another planet because few in the audience truly understand the matter being presented, then some polite vote of thanks and a round of applause....and the inevitable bout of socialising

Attended a talk at one of our regional branch meetings given by a well known speaker and SBI. As you mention the discussion started with a number of questions which to me at least didn't have anything to do with the talk- it was titled Myths of beekeeping.
When I stuck my hand up and asked whether the speaker felt the future may be working with the bees so that they can better manage mites. All went quite and I was made out to be a leper, from cloud cuckcoo land. The speaker said that will never happen and if you don't treat for mites your bees will die.
It felt that I was trying to infiltrate a religious sect and had clearly been rousted by the bulls!

 

[B+.]

The speaker said that will never happen and if you don't treat for mites your bees will die.

Remind me what the title of the session was again.....myths in beekeeping?

IMHO, this is probably true for a large number of beekeepers who haven't selected their bees for this trait. However, that doesn't have to be the case

 

[REDWOOD]

Brother Adam said that his uninsulated colonies were the first to build up in the spring.

 

[Erichalfbee]

I think, on this forum - despite the large number of members we have - we can forget that 'most' beekeepers are insulated from the forward thinking (at times experimental) ideas that we see on here. Their craft is often inherited because it is being taught by beekeepers who are passing on the ideas that originated over the years

.....................................well - I've done it this way for 'X' years and it works for me..'


New fangled in beekeeping ? Any idea less than 50 years old ???

A lot of truth in that.
I don't get to my association meetings as much as I would like but I try to help out at the apiary when I can.
There are members of my BKA who don't treat but they seem to keep their heads down.
Having run into two of the committee at LASI's roadshow we discussed sublimating oxalic which they had never heard of despite me mentioning that I did it on a few occasions (perhaps I'm invisible when I talk to the old male beekeepers at our club?)
They came to watch Stan and me do it, took pictures, put it in the newsletter and have now bought a Varrox for the club.....hooray.......progress
Our meetings tend to be about making soap/candles and when to super......Oh and we had Roger Patterson once........I liked the dog

 

[REDWOOD]

If only they had insulation boards 50 years ago

 

[For want of a better word]

Brother Adam said that his uninsulated colonies were the first to build up in the spring.

isolated ?

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