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Dartmoor edge, uk
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5...2 wooden National, 2 poly Nat & 1 poly nuc...bursting at the seams
This swarm arrived 3 days ago - left once but came back - I have a bait hive out but they are not interested...any suggestions? They are 40+ ft up, out on the end of a branch...
 
They are 40+ ft up, out on the end of a branch...

I would suggest that is one very tall tree!
 
Yep - very old with a TPO on it...Our garden is more or less surrounded...
 
would it be worth making a queenless split and shake them out on the ground infront of the bait box to start nasanof calling to try and entice them into the box? just a thought i certainly expect to be told no.

other than that a ladder and a strimmer polesaw and drop the branch they are on and put a box ontop of the bigest remaining clump of bees.

or option 3 leave them alone and accept the loss.
 
If you have a good throwing arm I have had this method suggested to me - throw a weight with fishing line attached over the branch, use that to pull a rope over. Lay out a sheet and skep under them then holding both ends of the rope give it a good tug and retreat sharpish...in theory most land on the sheet and make for the nearest shelter.

Rich
 
Thanks Ill talk to my OH. Wish I knew who's bees keep choosing my garden!!
 
get a ladder and a very long pole with a bag on the end of it.
 
would it be worth making a queenless split and shake them out on the ground infront of the bait box to start nasanof calling to try and entice them into the box? just a thought i certainly expect to be told no.

other than that a ladder and a strimmer polesaw and drop the branch they are on and put a box ontop of the bigest remaining clump of bees.

or option 3 leave them alone and accept the loss.

And risk being fined the tree has a TPO on it.
 
There is nowhere near the swarm that is strong enough to hold a ladder...and I can't afford a fine for cutting the tree! I should also point out that my apiary is directly underneath the swarm - so can't drop the swarm onto them...
 
It means we can take off dead, dying or diseased - but a tree surgeon has to write a report for the Council first...
 
Given the location of your apiary the throw a rope over trick is out as you say. I tried this method last year on a prime swarm. As the pile of bees fell to earth they almost immediately took to flight and regrouped back on the branch. I tried it three times and then went home for a cup of tea "and tried to forget about the whole sorry mess"!
 
Little bees far away... big bees close up....

Had one like that this afternoon........ partner in swarm collection nearly fell of Landy roof with the weight of cardboard box and said swarm!!!... one that two P a y n e s polly nucs came in
!!!!
 
Well, set up another bigger bait hive, with some old grotty combs and sprayed swarm oil everywhere...can't think what it is called...someone will know!:) It is now pouring down - so it is their choice...
 
and sprayed swarm oil everywhere...can't think what it is called...someone will know!

Channell usually pulls most of them in ?
 
"There is nowhere near the swarm that is strong enough to hold a ladder...and I can't afford a fine for cutting the tree! I should also point out that my apiary is directly underneath the swarm - so can't drop the swarm onto them..."

I've had the same problem as you for the last 3 days, except that my trees are willow (no TPO though) and the swarm decided to settle over the chicken run, on a branch which is too flexible to put a ladder against, and too high to use my usual windsurfing-mast-with-nuc-attached:

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I ended up using a small crossbow to fire some fishing line over a branch, then tied it to a rope as suggested above, then I raised an open poly nuc (ie no lid) underneath (picture below shows me lowering nuc after having left it in front of nuc for a day with old comb in with no success, but you get the idea):

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I raised the open nuc right under the swarm (eventually!), then used lengths of 2x1 screwed together to hit the branch from below. I found you have to do this *hard* so you get clumps of bees falling into the box, and at some point (hopefully) the queen.

I found the best thing to do was to wait for them to regroup on their branch for a few minutes, then hit it again from below, so that further clusters fall into the box - if you don't wait, and you hit the branch again too soon, they just fly off.

I then lowered the box, found the queen, put her in a queen clip, put her in the nuc, and left the open nuc under the branch, but on the ground, so that hopefully the smell would waft up.

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15 minutes later, the branch was bare - you could actually see it thin out as the bees flew down. You could hear the bees fanning quite hard.

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Yeah baby, show us yer Nasonov!

You have to do all this quickly, and yes it was a total PITA. It was also counter-intuitive, as putting an open box under the bees is the opposite to what we usually do.
 
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Lol, you're welcome, writing about it was far far easier than doing it.
 
Call them.

Stand under the swarm with a nuc box and bang a dustbin lid very loudly!

Some say it works, some say it doesn't. Either way it'll look a treat
 

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