Swarm Control - clipping wings

[jenkinsbrynmair]

It's not my Theory, it's one I've been told by numerous people and is the standard teaching over here, hence the reason why I emphasized it was theory in italics, but it is the MAIN or often sole reason given over here for clipping your Queen. I am doubtful of it: But it is the reason you would be given in the Associations I visit. Wonder what BBKA's advice is, I wonder if that's where they got it from?

Unfortunztely, you come on here, pose as some learned person, spout drivel then try and defent yourself when caught out.
IF as you claim you are a complete beginner, maybe you should stop sh!tstirring for five minutes, sit back and stop confusing people with duff 'advice'

 

[Repwoc]

Theory
Definition = a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory

That's a hypothesis.

Theory is supported by proof.

 

[Finman]

That's a hypothesis.

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Hypothesis: If you cut a wing,the queen cannot fly....

But theory is, that if you cut a wing, flying is delayed.

 

[Repwoc]

Hypothesis: If you cut a wing,the queen cannot fly....

But theory is, that if you cut a wing, flying is delayed.

I think it's the other way around - it's been proved that clipped queens can't fly. The flying (or leaving the hive) is delayed bit is hypothetical.

 

[Finman]

. The flying (or leaving the hive) is delayed bit is hypothetical.

I bet that it is hormonal.
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[Finman]

I think it's the other way around - it's been proved that clipped queens can't fly. The flying (or leaving the hive) is delayed bit is hypothetical.

If you cut tip from boath wings, the queen can fly.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Hypothesis: If you cut a wing,the queen cannot fly....

But theory is, that if you cut a wing, flying is delayed.

I think it's the other way around - it's been proved that clipped queens can't fly. The flying (or leaving the hive) is delayed bit is hypothetical.

Or is it that clipped queens can fly - but only in ever decreasing circles?
Bit like this thread.

 

[mbc]

Or is it that clipped queens can fly - but only in ever decreasing circles?
Bit like this thread.

 

[Beefriendly]

I clip queens and do a weekly inspection.
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If you think about it an inspection at 7 day intervals is far too long. The timing from an egg hatching to being sealed as a queen cell is 6 days.
Always catches me out....LOL

 

[Finman]

Or is it that clipped queens can fly - but only in ever decreasing circles?
Bit like this thread.

Queen should fly with its swarm. This forum may accept many variations of flying, but the swarm accepts only one way.

 

[B+.]

I thought the two puffs of CO2 did the trick, so an II Queen should be placed in a Nuc with a Queen Excluder fitted over the entrance before she is put to work or sold I suppose? I didn't know that. How long does the Queen Excluder stay, until she starts to lay?

Once she starts to lay, you can treat her like an ordinary queen

 

[For want of a better word]

Once she starts to lay, you can treat her like an ordinary queen

Then the testing begins!

 

[Finman]

If you think about it an inspection at 7 day intervals is far too long.

It is not. And you do not know, what day the queen lays its royal egg.

When I was at work, I inspected my hives at weekend, because hives were 100 miles away.

7 days is a practical number. Then you have couple spare days to work, if it is bad rainy weathers.

 

[Beefriendly]

It is not. And you do not know, what day the queen lays its queen egg.

Exactly., so if an egg is just hatching at your last inspection, something you cannot know, then it is a sealed queen cell the day before you do your next weekly inspection.

 

[Finman]

Exactly., so if an egg is just hatching at your last inspection, something you cannot know, then it is a sealed queen cell the day before you do your next weekly inspection.

What then? Life is not perfect. Cells are sealed but swarm bees are at home.

 

[B+.]

Then the testing begins!

Not really.
The bees that help her get established will have come from other colonies. You have to wait until they're all dead

 

[Beefriendly]

Life is not perfect. .

That I will agree on
It's a bowl of cherries....
7 days is just a convenient time scale for most working people, the bees work on 6.

 

[Eyeman]

If you think about it an inspection at 7 day intervals is far too long. The timing from an egg hatching to being sealed as a queen cell is 6 days.
Always catches me out....LOL

Blimey! I thought weekly was too often. If you put in place other swarm control measures then queen cells should be a rare occurrence?
Year before last 2 colonies raised QC's and in both instances the queen ended up outside surrounded by her daughters.

 

[Finman]

, the bees work on 6.

Amen to that, what ever that 6 means.

 

[Beefriendly]

Amen to that, what ever that 6 means.

Legs perhaps?