- Joined
- Jun 10, 2020
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- Location
- Sligo, Ireland
- Hive Type
- Other
- Number of Hives
- 8
Know what? This isn't a decent kick-around of thoughts. I've tired of your self-important dismissal. It's a complex discussion and your dismissal suggests you haven't really looked far beyond your own opinions.
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(diagram from Complex Demographic History and Evolutionary Origin of the Western Honey Bee, Apis Mellifera - worth a read, but only one source from a rich seam of on-going research)
It's a big - and really interesting - discussion. Start reading further. Try keeping an open mind and just allow yourself the opportunity to grow a little. Don't bother to reply to me.
Bumbling Beekeeper - From what I have read on this forum there are a number of contributors that peddle in wilful ignorance, obfuscation and denigration at any mention of Amm. Finman chief amongst them. He keeps talking about his qualifications in genetics but then argues that it is okay for subspecies to be wiped out because scientists now don't think subspecies are important anymore. I guess if you want to justify the massive collapse in planetary biodiversity caused by human action you have to tell yourself something but I'm not sure there are many evolutionary biologists that would support that take on things.
Just for anyone reading this who might be new to the forum. Amm are the native subspecies of honeybee bee for most of northern Europe. There is no scientific argument to contradict that.
Their population collapse has been brought about by human action. There is no scientific argument to contradict that.
If you are keeping non-amm within Amm's former natural range you are just aiding and perpetuating that collapse. There is no scientific argument against that.
Queue the 'I wont be told what kind of bee I can keep' - 'I can keep any bee i want' 'Amm never existed they are just a fairytale' blah blah