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What temperature should the runny honey be at to mix in the seed honey?

Will be giving this a go tomorrow for the first time, I have watched the video on the forum but it doesn't recommend a temp for it.
 
Normal room temp works for me, I expect to be shot down though and told it won't possibly work at this temp. Proof of the pudding ;)
 
Personally I add my seed honey to the bucket of OSR and gently heat (warming cabinet) until it all soft enough to mix. Then leave it for a few days to allow any air bubbles to rise to the surface and then jar it.
 
It wasnt OSR and I am still waiting for it to set, it is happening but slowly lol.
 
IIRC the ideal temperature for soft set honey to set is 14 degrees C.

I could be wrong, though.
 
Yep as the temp has dropped since I made it, it is starting to set, but slowwwly lol
 
Sorry Veg, missed that.

How about this?

Honey may be packed for use or sale either as crystallized, or 'set' honey, or as clear honey, and these varieties will require different warming temperatures to prepare them for bottling. A fairly low temperature of 32°C (90°F) applied for 2-5 days will warm crystallized honey through with very little melting of the crystals but will bring it to a consistency which will allow it to be easily and quickly bottled using the normal tap or honey gate in a small tank. The time suggested above is for honey stored in 28 lb. lots, and will have to be increased for larger volumes and decreased for smaller ones. The variation in time is also dependent upon the hardness of the honey, which will itself depend upon its origin. A good white clover honey can seem to be almost as hard as glass, and will still be solid at the end of 4 days warming. It is, however, warm throughout and can be stirred to break up the crystals. Once this has been done it will flow readily. Other honeys such as red clover, crucifer and tree honey will only take 3 days, and will not usually need stirring. Honeydew and some dark honeys will be ready in 2 days. The beekeeper has to get to know the honeys of his area and treat them accordingly, putting the hard ones in to warm before the soft ones if he is producing a blend.
This method is dependent upon having honey which has crystallized with an acceptable texture when it first sets. If the beekeeper has honey which is coarse, and of a gravel-like texture, this can be brought right back to a fluid using the temperature suggested for clear honey, and then seeded with some honey of the right texture. If the beekeeper studies his honey and sees coarse honey turning up regularly, and can identify the source, this should be 'seeded' when it is taken from the settling tank into the cans for storage. In this way he can avoid coarse honey and the problems it may cause at bottling time.
For the production of clear honey the crystallized crop has to be rendered back to fluid. This is done by heating to 52°C (125°F) for 2 days. Again adjustment will be needed for the size of storage container and hardness of the honey. When the honey is taken from the warming cabinet it can be strained very easily and quickly through a nylon cloth to remove from settled honey the last few bits of wax and aggregated lumps of pollen that otherwise give the final honey a cloudy appearance instead of a bright sparkle. A temperature of 52°C will still leave a considerable number of crystals small enough to get through the straining cloth, so that the honey will rapidly recrystallize, and there would hardly be time to get it to the shops and sell it before it was half set again. To avoid this, it should be heated again after bottling, this time to 62°C (145°F) for an hour in a waterbath. This heating is done with the lids on and screwed down; there is no danger of the bottles bursting, as the lids are not totally airtight. This process will give a shelf life of about 6-9 months before the honey begins to regranulate.
 
ive read on Graham & Annie Laws website

that you dont need to seed osr is this correct as every other source says it needs to be seeded..sorry for stupid questions in advance lol
 
Using creamed seed honey

My wife mistakingly bought a "Soft and creamy" set Clover honey, for me to use as Seed Honey, which has obviously been beaten to make it the double thick cream texture it is. Could I use it as seed and will the honey set to this very smooth texture or, being artificially brought to a creamy texture, it'll default back to Clover set honey.

Any advice would be welcome as I was hoping to start tonight.
 
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