Raping the planet

[jenkinsbrynmair]

We often had what was called 'sterilised' milk at home in Yorkshire as a kid in the 1950's,

we still used to sell a few bottles of it on the milk round, they came in a steel wire crate not plastic. to a handful of remote household, some of which still hadn't got electrict - let alone a fridge (Cwmnant farm was one - but to be honest all of them there (two brothers, two sisters, never married) were on the bonkers side of eccentric, all nice people, but crackers, in fact, for years I didn't realise there were four there as the only ones who ever appeared were Percy and occasionally Nans.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I've been led to believe that increasing intolerance is a natural part of the development of young mammals and part of the weaning process, maybe suggesting that those of us who are able to continue drinking milk into adulthood are the ones who have a disorder.

or maybe just never grew up

 

[JamezF]

or maybe just never grew up

That covers 95% of the male population then

James

 

[fian]

I actually like the different taste of UHT Long life milk... but have you tried it in the British national drink TEA !!! It's awful ....

No, the non-Anglophile part of the world drinks coffee.

 

[pargyle]

No, the non-Anglophile part of the world drinks coffee.

Exactly why they can tolerate UHT Milk !

 

[Karol]

I don't fancy trying a slice of marinated starmer but happy to receive your report

He's not Boris you know!
Reminds me more of this: https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...o7QBegQIFhAE&usg=AOvVaw0puve5TvSbB27j4R6YkM3o

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

No, the non-Anglophile part of the world drinks coffee.

not really, unless you're only alluding to the caucasian population, you had to make your way back to Maseru to get a coffee in Tanzania and the vast majority of food shops in Tanzania give you a choice of tea or tea
of course if you want tea with milk in the Netherlands or the old 'Eastern bloc' you just ask for 'baby tea'

 

[fian]

not really, unless you're only alluding to the caucasian population, you had to make your way back to Maseru to get a coffee in Tanzania and the vast majority of food shops in Tanzania give you a choice of tea or tea
of course if you want tea with milk in the Netherlands or the old 'Eastern bloc' you just ask for 'baby tea'

It is true that Tanzania and Zanzibar are originally German colonies but it is worth remembering that since the Treaty of Versailles in 1919 they passed under British rule until 1961/1963. Furthermore, English is still the official language so I don't know whether to formally consider it an Anglophile part of the world, after all it is still part of the British Commonwealth of Nations.

 

[Gilberdyke John]

Only some. The supermarkets want to offer cheap milk as a means of gaining footfall and with their muscle, keep the price they pay the farmers as low as they can get away with.
Most folk I talk to would willingly pay more to ensure proper husbandry.

I suspect the Mandy Rice Davis syndrome might be in play. When faced with two bottles side by side at different prices the typical housewife picks the cheapest. Don't we see this with supermarket honey?

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

It is true that Tanzania and Zanzibar are originally German colonies but it is worth remembering that since the Treaty of Versailles in 1919 they passed under British rule until 1961/1963. Furthermore, English is still the official language so I don't know whether to formally consider it an Anglophile part of the world, after all it is still part of the British Commonwealth of Nations.

and?...........................................

 

[Goran]

Ex Yu - mostly coffee. People drink tea here ( but the least real tea like in UK, mostly of various European herbs) only when feel having flu or something like that.. When someone order tea in some pub, cafeteria or so other asks are You feeling sick or so?
I myself stopped to drink coffee in large quantities by some unexpected event, nowadays I drink coffee rarely. It turned to not be some great addiction for me, just some habit..

 

[pargyle]

Ex Yu - mostly coffee. People drink tea here ( but the least real tea like in UK, mostly of various European herbs) only when feel having flu or something like that.. When someone order tea in some pub, cafeteria or so other asks are You feeling sick or so?
I myself stopped to drink coffee in large quantities by some unexpected event, nowadays I drink coffee rarely. It turned to not be some great addiction for me, just some habit..

yes ...it does become a habit ... I've changed from lots of instant coffee each day to just a couple of good ones ... I feel better for it. I drink more water or weak squash as well ... much better for me.

 

[Goran]

I dislike instant coffee, I just used to drink old fashioned " Turkish coffee" cup of 0,2L and only with honey as sweetener, without milk - ordinary 3 of such for a day and maybe occasionally few smaller ones.
We make some of " weak squash" by ourselves ( sour cherry, cornel, elderberry flower..).
Nowadays even kids in elementary school are drinking energy drinks as water.. horror.. I believe human civilization as time passes we become dumber and dumber..

 

[fian]

Although it is very rare now since the coffee maker is more or less widespread, previously coffee was made by pouring it into hot water and letting it cook for a few minutes, stirring to prevent it from burning. The result was strained to eliminate the paste. I only know of two places where it is still done this way and the experience of those who do it has resulted in something remarkable considering that the pressure of water on the dry pasta is what gives the espresso its personality.

 

[Erichalfbee]

I've changed from lots of instant coffee each day to just a couple of good ones

Can't start the day without a "good" cup of coffee from one of these pressure machines. I have two a day. The rest is Pukka tea.....proper tea really dries my mouth out badly.

 

[mbc]

Who is to blame ?

U boats

 

[rossbyjove]

So if you farm please tell me why you think we, the public, are demanding cheap milk? I certainly am not and I can't see how we, the public, are not in a position to do that. It must be down to the middle men. I am not saying I know best I am saying what I know about me, now please tell me how you know that I am demanding cheap milk. A good debate at the moment and I am not trying to upset you, just understand why these huge cattle sheds that need hundreds of tractor movements in a day seem to be a necessity.

We do not need to drink milk.
It's a choice.
Don't touch the stuff or the non milk 'milks' either.

 

[rossbyjove]

Can't start the day without a "good" cup of coffee from one of these pressure machines. I have two a day. The rest is Pukka tea.....proper tea really dries my mouth out badly.

Bad coffee actually makes me ill.
Avoid it at all costs !