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find a another method of doing what ever that doesnt involve finding the queen?
Bring along a bee buddy, they usually say 'there she is' before you've started looking
That's interesting. Does it matter what kind of brood - open or emerging brood?If I get on the edge of my nerves searching for, I place frame with brood from other hive and come after about half an hour. The queen is there.. I didn't invent it, just use what learned.
But usually I find her when needed without frame shifting..
That's interesting. Does it matter what kind of brood - open or emerging brood?