Now I really really need some help please!

[mbc]

I had never heard of Taranov so made for some interesting reading although not a method I might try as a newbee, thanks for the information Polyhive.
I was however not amazed by it and do not think I nor my fellow new beekeepers on this Forum are simple minded!!!

It wasn't the implication, please accept my apologies if it came across as so.
I simply cannot believe anyone who's gone through the whole taranov board thing would want to do it again or advise others to do so.

 

[BeeJayBee]

I'm interested in your Snelgrove description, when I've carried out this procedure it was like a vertical AS. From the bottom up as follows
New brood box with queen on one comb, the rest foundation. Snelgrove board. Old brood box with cells reduced to one. Crownboard and roof.
The flyers return to queen below and you can bleed off extra bees using the entrances.

In the earlier thread OursonAnglaise was advised to do Wally Shaw's "Snelgrove 2" http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=36593

Wrt Taranov, there are a few pictures and videos on various blogs and, of course, Dave Cushman's excellent description http://www.dave-cushman.net/bee/taranovswm.html

It isn't significantly different from a shook swarm, in that all bees are shaken or brushed off the frames, but they go onto a cloth-covered ramp instead of into a new brood box. They sort themselves out into two groups. Most of the flying bees return to the original site, the queen goes to hide in the dark beneath the ramp and is protected by the rest of the colony.

 

[Poly Hive]

Indeed it is not and of course a lot depends on the temperament of the bees.

My footnote on my site re the Taranov is:

"This works very well and for those who have issues with queen finding it is one to ponder. However, and there is aye a but, it can be messy, it can damage more than a few bees and it is NOT for using in the vicinity of innocent neighbours as colonies can get VERY upset."

I have used it several times over the years and it does have it's place in the toolbox but probably not for beginners.

PH

 

[misterbee82]

Sounds like an honest mistake that any of us could make, I hope you recover your swarm and old queen.