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New Member with worry about dead bees outside hive and being brought out of the hive!!!!!
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We do need pictures of the brood frames
With some of the bees shaken off
If going by post#1 in London not far from Q.
One wild brace comb in one of the pics at the end of the brood box, really needs taking out and replacing with a frame. If careful is can be inserted in a frame and held by strong size no82 elastic bands.
The picture of the super of frames with foundation is totally void of bees it isn't needed on the hive as they aren't using it, one only needs to add extra space above if the bees are covering the super/honey box below by approx. 3/4's.
The dead bees outside looks fairly normal drones being expelled though a bit early not unusual and some dead workers, these are likely just end of life bees that are worn out. No shiny wet bees so look healthy enough.
One wild brace comb in one of the pics at the end of the brood box, really needs taking out and replacing with a frame. If careful is can be inserted in a frame and held by strong size no82 elastic bands.
The picture of the super of frames with foundation is totally void of bees it isn't needed on the hive as they aren't using it, one only needs to add extra space above if the bees are covering the super/honey box below by approx. 3/4's.
The dead bees outside looks fairly normal drones being expelled though a bit early not unusual and some dead workers, these are likely just end of life bees that are worn out. No shiny wet bees so look healthy enough.
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That's what I thought but the later post left me a bit confused.
Looking at the photos he's got a brood box, a super, two more brood boxes with a queen excluder somewhere .. may be foundationless frames looking at the comb they have drawn and the box of new frames ? More questions than answers so far ... plus the hive in the OP's first photo has a landing board and a brick under the entrance and the stack in the later photos doesn't ?
Looking at the photos he's got a brood box, a super, two more brood boxes with a queen excluder somewhere .. may be foundationless frames looking at the comb they have drawn and the box of new frames ? More questions than answers so far ... plus the hive in the OP's first photo has a landing board and a brick under the entrance and the stack in the later photos doesn't ?
The reason for so many drones is that they are raised for mating and increase of the colonies genes a natural process and harmony in the colony. If one removes drones or drone brood colonies will simply replace them as this helps the colonies out in other ways.
Some of us allow the bees to make there own comb and decide which size cell to construct, these colonies in general will contain a higher % of drones as that is what they decide to produce in spring and during the summer.
Some of us allow the bees to make there own comb and decide which size cell to construct, these colonies in general will contain a higher % of drones as that is what they decide to produce in spring and during the summer.
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And the bees between the frames are worker bees
Yes BB's as supers and a multiple box system below.
I think Boylucid is having a few beginners issues with being left in at the deep end and little or no decent mentoring, which is to be expected with some new beeks. It can be a hard initiation without good mentoring/ help at hand.
Though he has done the correct thing and started to post and ask for help, what is needed is someone competent to physically get there hands on the colony to help and guide him along the way.
I think Boylucid is having a few beginners issues with being left in at the deep end and little or no decent mentoring, which is to be expected with some new beeks. It can be a hard initiation without good mentoring/ help at hand.
Though he has done the correct thing and started to post and ask for help, what is needed is someone competent to physically get there hands on the colony to help and guide him along the way.
This looks to a different hive to the one in #1, maybe the the brick & landing board have been removed ?
There is a third hive just out of picture on the RHS is this empty ?
There may be nothing to much wrong but someone and Boylucid need to get a hold on the situation to sort a little bit of a mess out.
The large national set up needs condensing/rearranging as the space will be too much to over winter in.
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Many reason's why the the colony has been continually fed.
1. The incentive to forage may be lacking due to continual feeding through out the spring and summer.
2. Bees were initially a weak colony and also may have been affected by nosema or varroa .
3. Bee population density may be high locally in the area and forage is at a premium.
4. Bees might just bee of poor stock/breeding.
What is the name of the varroa treatment of green paste ?
1. The incentive to forage may be lacking due to continual feeding through out the spring and summer.
2. Bees were initially a weak colony and also may have been affected by nosema or varroa .
3. Bee population density may be high locally in the area and forage is at a premium.
4. Bees might just bee of poor stock/breeding.
What is the name of the varroa treatment of green paste ?
Well done for not running away and burying your head in the sand.
From a far all we can do is give some advice and try and help, ideally it is best if you can get some good mentoring/help. It may be prudent to join the local BKA then you might be lucky to find some one to give some help.
In the 2nd & 3rd pic of the larger colony remove the top brood box and QX, it isn't needed now at this time.
The main hive below what is the state of play in all boxes, how much brood is in each box and how much of it is frame of food stores ? Ideally they need condensing down once the varroa treatment, whatever it is has ended.
As Dani /erichalfbee has mentioned in #22 some pics of the the brood frames devoid of bees will be useful and pics of decent stores.
The main hive below what is the state of play in all boxes, how much brood is in each box and how much of it is frame of food stores ? Ideally they need condensing down once the varroa treatment, whatever it is has ended.
As Dani /erichalfbee has mentioned in #22 some pics of the the brood frames devoid of bees will be useful and pics of decent stores.
No. this is the same hive the entrance with t he brick and landing board is round the other side!
Hello these are the sticks
These are the sticks I purchased and the green paste is a packet of Apilife Var
Those sticks are a waste of time and money, be sensible and don't buy again.
Apilifevar wait until the treatment period has ended then deal with condensing the colony, the colony being treated will have a good chance of having varroa and viruses reduced so a good proactive move .
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yes ... that's a fair assessment of the situation. It's difficult to describe what you are seeing in words when you are still learning the language of beekeeping and without other beekeepers to talk to and no courses available it's been a tough year for people who have leapt in at the deepend and hope they can swim !
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Ahhh ... not those foreign jobbies stealing my market again ! Mine have the magic oofle dust and guaranteed to work ....Philip have you been naughty again with your stick offer!!!!!!!
