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Are we not looking at two different things here?

The OP describes four boxes on top of a main colony with passage possible for the nurses and foragers up and down if QE is used between them.

The queen castle Don describes is four seperate queen rearing areas in one box with bees shaken in.


"No" Op states a single box divided into 4 and not 4 boxes stacked on top of one another
Don is showing a std lang divided as described by OP
 
"No" Op states a single box divided into 4 and not 4 boxes stacked on top of one another
Don is showing a std lang divided as described by OP

Oh OK I wasn't thinking one on top of the other though.

I was looking at Cushmans site showing top boards with up to four entrances on the sides for four seperate nucs but with solid floors.

What's confusing me is the idea that with a QE on top of the bb the bees have access to all four nucs above.
 
all the ones i have seen have only got mesh as the floors there is nothing between bottom brood and further boxes. they are treated as 4 separate colonies.

have a look at Don explaining them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p68phQq_gnI

Yep saw that so why the bother of keeping them on top of a bb/hive.

Isn't he just showing and describing a Nuc split into four entirely seperate areas with a solid floor and their own entrances?

And I don't see where the mesh or QE floors come in at all.
 
Yep saw that so why the bother of keeping them on top of a bb/hive.

Isn't he just showing and describing a Nuc split into four entirely seperate areas with a solid floor and their own entrances?

And I don't see where the mesh or QE floors come in at all.

Hi
this is an american born thing, they are not intended to be over a brood they are mainly intended as raising nucs.
all started with a 2 way split a brood box ( lang ) split to give 2 x 4 frame, you would make them up as a nuc brood frames, bees and pop in a queen and away they go.
the entrances are apposed to each other so 2 colonies in one box, as they grow you simply put on 4 frame boxes to build them up.

over time they decided to split in 3 then 4 way,as holding nucs for new queens. then it looks like they took the idea on to use them as mating nucs mainly in a 4 way half frame configuration

it gets all so confusing ! its like being given 4 hammers to drive in one nail !
 
Ok apperently its more like the Cushman/Patterson 2 frame Nuc scheme for colony increasing rather than a pure queen rearing system.
 
spot on, exactly correct. but they do use them also for queen rearing the divide is personal preference full frame vs half frame
 
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The OP describes four boxes on top of a main colony with passage possible for the nurses and foragers up and down if QE is used between them.

Spot on!

Should perhaps add that intended use would be for dark bees not the yellow hybidised Mediterranean things that our Finnish friend fancies.

Only worker bees could pass through the QE... and warmth

Yeghes da
 
The OP describes four boxes on top of a main colony with passage possible for the nurses and foragers up and down if QE is used between them.

Spot on!

Should perhaps add that intended use would be for dark bees not the yellow hybidised Mediterranean things that our Finnish friend fancies.

Only worker bees could pass through the QE... and warmth

Yeghes da

But isn't that tantamount to a hive with four free queens?

Help! I thought I understood but now I'm not so sure. . . . . . :)
 
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Should perhaps add that intended use would be for dark bees not the yellow hybidised Mediterranean things that our Finnish friend fancies.

da


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My goal to average yield is this year 150 kg/hive .

The soil has got water now 30 mm and temp is 23C.

Only problem is that there are too much bumbble bees here now.

Hives gsve 4-6 boxes.

The gun is loaded. You play with your excluders.
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