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There is a bait that relies on the rodents inability to metabolise one of the ingredients , cant think of it's name right now but it's harmless to all but rodents. One of the sales men eats a hand full to both shock and illustrate it's properties :)
VM

:rolleyes:What are you a MAN or a MOUSE..... ARRRRRRRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

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Tosh to you too sir,

I have forked tons of straw in to a static baler as the twines were cut by mice.

Yeah, but that was before modern twines, things have moved on since then.....

Mice and voles are the staple diet for a range of others creatures and as such have an important role in maintaining a healthy bio diversity.

Chris
 
See what you started Poly just by giving the heads up on fixing a mouse guard lol
 
Is it better to remove the entrance block first before fitting the mouseguard or doesnt it matter ?
 
Yeah, but that was before modern twines, things have moved on since then.....

Mice and voles are the staple diet for a range of others creatures and as such have an important role in maintaining a healthy bio diversity.

Chris

Modern day twines are destroyed by modern day rats. We have a huge shed full of bales and rats are in there now. The dogs have great fun, when we remove bales, but for now, we have to put poison down in suitable containers to reduce the damage.
 
Is it better to remove the entrance block first before fitting the mouseguard or doesnt it matter ?

Better to remove entrance block because if you get a few dead bees in the out let it might block the rest in. hope that makes sence
 
French guards for Dadants fit the OMF - really simple and can be turned the other way up to keep the bees shut in for transporting or what ever.

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Chris
 
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Can I say "Tosh"? because in Europe that is just a tad wide of the mark to say the least of it.

I've never had or heard of a bee colony being destroyed by mice provided it had suitable protection.

Bindings these days on bales won't be touched by rodents and can't even be broken by hand.

Grain is stored in mouse proof silos.

.....and finally we have mice and various other creatures living in our house and it's been standing for 260 years so far.

Mind you this is France, we may just be more advanced than the UK.

Chris
Do you live with the cuckoos in cuckoo land?:eek:
 
My hives are on stands with metal legs which are approx. 18" high and last year did not put on any mouse guards. Do you think I need to?

I've seen a rat climb up a 1/2" dia metal pole ( on a bird feeder) to get to food. They can get anywhere !
 
Going up vertical is fairly easy for them. What you need then is a wide horizontal smooth surface - like the old stone 'mushrooms' for lifting unthreshed ricks well clear of the ground in days gone by.

Lots of examples of grain stores on a similar arrangement in Spain per eg.

RAB
 
A couple of winters ago I found mice nesting in a hive - I removed them, and the colony still seemed sound, but come springtime they simply didn't recover - they had stores, the queen was laying, but they never expanded enough to recover.

I also put mouse traps under my hives, but I tie the mouse trap to the palette my hives are on with copper wire (not string, for obvious reasons) so that an injured mouse doesn't drag the trap off into the bushes and die a slow death.

VM, were you thinking of Eradibait?
 
PH, it is only appropriate to use poison in situ for a particular proven risk event. Putting bait around beehives when a simple mouse guard does the trick is plain daft. Sorry, but it is.

If you happen to have livestock, as I do, then protecting feed against vermin is common sense: rodent proof bins and poison or traps in situ. What possible use is killing mice several fields away on an apiary where cats, owls and other creatures form part of a relatively natural food chain?

The issue is keeping our hives mouse-free. Mouse guard on. Simples :)
 
Need a mouse guard on my front door- as I type I have a little mouse running round my lounge!! Nice little thing and just wish I could catch it to scoot it out like the spiders- mind you- the 3 rats in a garage were clobbered with a spade.
All hives protected though...
 
3/8" (9mm?) entrances..........if you cannot get your little finger in up to the first joint than a mouse cannot get in either.

Not fitted a mouse guard in many many years as they never go in the door when it is shallow. Not in poly either.
 
Thanks for the heads-up on mouseguards- I will get organised on that.

I can see why you might use traps as a second line of defence but I don't think I will be, given that the consensus seems to be that mouseguards do the job sufficiently.

But I do have to take issue on the use of poison. Given the pasting wildlife has taken in recent years, and particularly the problems owls are having, this should surely be a last resort, not a routine preventative.

Not often I disagree with you PH, but I would urge you to reconsider. 'The only good mouse is a dead 'un' does have a rather 'silent spring' sound to it. If you can't see any good in the mouse for it's own sake, think of it as owl/raptor food on legs!
 

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