interesting read

[Goran]

Thanks for insights. When I "bump" on some other interesting sci info will write.

Effect of Croatian propolis on diabetic nephropathy and liver toxicity in mice
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3551731/

Functional and Biological Properties of the Bee Products: a Review
http://www.bee-hexagon.net/files/file/fileE/Health/BeeProductsFunctional.pdf

In vitro antimicrobial activity of a novel propolis formulation (Actichelated propolis)
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2672.2007.03421.x/full

ANTIVIRAL ACTIVITY AND FLAVONOID CONTENT OF PROPOLIS FROM CROATIA AND BRAZIL
In this research was found that HSV-1 symptoms are stopped with used of water solution of propolis ( immediate stop of "growth").
http://bib.irb.hr/prikazi-rad?rad=276648

 

[Bee-gun]

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According EU regulations you must have scientific evidencies about honey, that it reduces blood pressure, before you sell the stuff in that meaning.

And those evidences do not exist.

IT is very dangerous to offer honey as medicine. It is always best to go to doctor. High blood pressure is serious disease, and very often lethal.
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Blood pressure is very complex system. It is connected to kidney hormones, which commands heart's working. Medicine affects 24 hours.

Anecdotes don't constitute evidence. When there is peer-reviewed research to support the claims, involving double-blind experiments, that's when you can make a claim about the health-giving effects of honey, but not before.

Of course there are problems with this attitude. Honey, Propolis, and Bee products in general cannot be "patented". They have been around in public knowledge for thousands of years. They have had the benefits described anecdotally for millennia. According to your comments this doesn't count. The only way through this is for peer reviewed study. These can and do cost millions of pounds / Dollars whatever currency you care to mention.
"Big Pharmaceutical" companies are not interested because bee products predate "patents" on which they make their money.

Such is the problem. I agree with Goran, that this stuff is really exciting. Having made my first batch I have cleared up lesions that I have had for fifteen years. Doctors and conventional medicine had simply given up. Why wouldn't it work internally as well? Yet we are constrained by the rules put in place by the "Big Pharmaceutical" companies that show no interest.

There is a solution. Beekeepers need to raise the millions required to fund the trials and beat the Pharmaceutical companies at their own game. How deep are your pockets?

Sorry for the late bump on this post, but I hadn't made a tincture when this was still current.

 

[user 6228]

The money is in making bee products that are easy to apply in the medical setting e,g. sterile wound dressings containing medically active honey that do not excessively absorb water.

 

[Goran]

If someone didn't saw..

https://www.degruyter.com/view/j/jas.ahead-of-print/jas-2015-0018/jas-2015-0018.xml?format=INT

Interesting to me is the info of one found that some wax from Netherlands and one more neighbour are matching in quality with some Bosnian wax. Although " improving substance" isn't the same but

 

[colinc]

Honey has its place in dressing wounds and I have used it to good effect but..... Medical grade honey wound dressings are irradiated to sterilise them without denaturing them and reducing these antibacterial effects. I saw a report recently that cultured a range of supermarket honey including Manuka and one of the bacteria found was Clostridia (others included E.coli and Salmonella). Stick that in your open wounds and see how you get on.

Blanket prescriptions on forums regarding medical matters are, like Finman says, likely to do serious harm.


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[madasafish]

. I saw a report recently that cultured a range of supermarket honey including Manuka and one of the bacteria found was Clostridia (others included E.coli and Salmonella). Stick that in your open wounds and see how you get on.



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There will be no problem from Clostridia as the antibiotics in the honey will prevent it infecting you...