In A Bit Of A Pickle

[Bee Boys]

I did this one week ago on a hive that was not very strong.

 

[Poly Hive]

So yes aluminium is better. I learnt that from others on here, and that is the great thing about this forum the knowledge available.

If of course you are willing to take it on.

PH

 

[Millet]

That tape I have is also good stuff..used the same stuff two years in a row and not a single bee has got through it.

 

[The Poot in Somerset]

Your tape looks more suitable for wasps than bees......

 

[pargyle]

For interest, why is aluminium better?

The bees eat duct tape which is reinforced with a glassfibre web.. when they eat into it the adhesive on the remaining mesh catches the bees and they get stuck and die ... They don't touch aluminium foil tape.

 

[pargyle]

That tape I have is also good stuff..used the same stuff two years in a row and not a single bee has got through it.

It looks to me like the tape used in warehouses on the floor to denote hazard areas - it's nothing like duct tape. Duct (or Duck as it's sometimes called) is this stuff ..

https://www.toolstation.com/duck-cloth-duct-tape/p48334

The aluminium tape (which is also great for making up Kinspan boxes over the oints and edges, it's also good for emergency repairs to hives, covers holes and cracks and is great for sealing up a hive before it goes in to storage ..is this stuff:

https://www.toolstation.com/aluminium-foil-tape/p81953

Listen to people who have made the mistake and you will save yourself some grief. DUCT TAPE WILL BE EATEN BY THE BEES.

 

[Poly Hive]

Just as a point of interest we "invented" a bandaging system for our injured whippet. He had a surgical pad over the wound and it took three bandages to keep it in place. For a whippie he has a very deep sharp chest, more suitable for an ocean racing yacht tbh.

So I thought to glue the bandage to the pad with a hot glue gun. Complete failure as too brittle. Then tried the Duck brand and it worked to a point but not a huge success. Then tried Gorilla and bingo: total success.

That yellow and black tape is sometimes a barrier tape or for demarking floors, it is not "duct tape" for sure.

PH

 

[pargyle]

Just as a point of interest we "invented" a bandaging system for our injured whippet. He had a surgical pad over the wound and it took three bandages to keep it in place. For a whippie he has a very deep sharp chest, more suitable for an ocean racing yacht tbh.

So I thought to glue the bandage to the pad with a hot glue gun. Complete failure as too brittle. Then tried the Duck brand and it worked to a point but not a huge success. Then tried Gorilla and bingo: total success.

That yellow and black tape is sometimes a barrier tape or for demarking floors, it is not "duct tape" for sure.

PH

Ha ha ..been there and done that ... trying to keep a dressing on a labrador's ear after a haeatoma had to be removed .. he discovered he could get round the lampshade by finding a corner of furniture and getting his ear between the furiture and the lampshade ... then we tried the inflatable collar ... far to easy for him ... bandages lasted about 5 seconds ... never thought about gorilla tape .. mind you .. it would remove a bit of fur at the end I would think !

 

[Beefriendly]

DUCT TAPE WILL BE EATEN BY THE BEES.

Gonna have to agree to differ on that one Pargyle....I've used Duct tape for years and never (so far) had an issue with it. Used it to block holes in crown boards, surround insulated dummy boards, make open mesh floors not open mesh floors etc etc
Perhaps your southern bees have a vitamin D (uct) deficiency
I'll not say it never gets removed or attacked but to date not in any of my apiaries.

 

[Poly Hive]

Paryle that was the whole problem as the adhesive pads, the ones with the adhesive round the edge was making him react as in his skin became red and angry hence the move to the bandaging to secure it.

The deal was, pad and three bandages to hold it, one round his neck and tow round his chest and tummy, then a layer of strips of cotton wool, then bandages to cover the whole lot then the coloured self adhesive bandages to keep it all in place then his surgical jacket to protect the lot.

188 days from start to finish and a massive amount of money.

PH

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

It looks to me like the tape used in warehouses on the floor to denote hazard areas - it's nothing like duct tape. Duct (or Duck as it's sometimes called) is this stuff ..

https://www.toolstation.com/duck-cloth-duct-tape/p48334

AKA gaffer tape due to it's popularity with lighting gaffers in film/TV studios for temporarily fixing down electrical flexes.

 

[theeggman]

We've used blue masking tape for many different uses. It sticks like S to a B and is waterproof but comes off cleanly. It's currently holding a plastic sack on to OH's leg to cover a boot on a broken bone. It won't work in hives though.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3M-Prote...705098&hash=item3af6b3594e:g:9cUAAOSwapdb4vDV

 

[pargyle]

Gonna have to agree to differ on that one Pargyle....I've used Duct tape for years and never (so far) had an issue with it. Used it to block holes in crown boards, surround insulated dummy boards, make open mesh floors not open mesh floors etc etc
Perhaps your southern bees have a vitamin D (uct) deficiency
I'll not say it never gets removed or attacked but to date not in any of my apiaries.

So .. you've used it for covering the cut edges of celotex/kingspan insulation for use as dummy boards in hives have you ..? without any problems ?

Sorry .. I have .. only once .. and never again. The bees WILL chew it and they WILL get stuck in the reinforcement mesh embedded in it. Bees love to chew up Kingspan and Celotex and Duct tape is something they can get through to get at it ... with disastrous results.

 

[Beefriendly]

S

Sorry .. I have .. only once .. and never again..

You should try it again, it's fine, no problem.

 

[Poly Hive]

Cough...

I am bemused here. If bees can destroy a substance why use it?

PH

 

[pargyle]

Cough...

I am bemused here. If bees can destroy a substance why use it?

PH

When there is something available that works better in every respect and the cost is actually less:

Aluminium tape 45m x 75mm £6.76 - 0.15p/mtr (and it's wider !)

Duct tape: 25m x 50mm £4.99 - 0.20p/mtr

I would have thought that, as a fellow Yorkshireman, BF would be inclined to see the benefits .. you can take a horse to water ...

I forgot to add earlier that I used aluminium tape for my dual purpose hive cosy/solar wax melter - it took a paint finish .. stands outside 365 days a year and is still going strong .. it even withstands steam when there is no solar power .. made it in \July 2015

 

[Millet]

Dummied down to seven frames as I was getting into stores..
Here are the two garden colonies for comparison..both hived at the same time with the same Queens and both where equally strong..it just goes to show how no two colonies build up the same..

 

[Beefriendly]

Cough...

I am bemused here. If bees can destroy a substance why use it?

PH

erhummm
Couldn't agree more, its why I don't use stuff that bees can destroy.

 

[Murox]

I'm intrigued - If Bees love to chew up Kingspan and Celotex why do they not do the same to a poly hive??

 

[Beefriendly]

I would have thought that, as a fellow Yorkshireman, BF would be inclined to see the benefits .. you can take a horse to water ...

Not even remotely cast in the same stereotypical mould...call me a spendthrift
Oh BTW you should try the Lidl 20m rolls of duct tape for 1.99....works out a lot cheaper.