Honey eye drops

[Monbees]

A very regular customer, who is also a friend, is suffering from macular degeneration. He has been making eye drops using manuka honey, but has discovered that 'raw' honey can be used and is obviously much cheaper. So he proposes to use my honey for making eye drops. I am rather uneasy about this but cannot really refuse to sell him my honey.

 

[Sutty]

I'd advise him it's a stupid idea & will have no beneficial effect on the retina, it may have deleterious effects on other parts of the eyes.

 

[Erichalfbee]

A very regular customer, who is also a friend, is suffering from macular degeneration. He has been making eye drops using manuka honey, but has discovered that 'raw' honey can be used and is obviously much cheaper. So he proposes to use my honey for making eye drops. I am rather uneasy about this but cannot really refuse to sell him my honey.

Sutty is spot on.

 

[Karol]

https://publishing.rcseng.ac.uk/doi/10.1308/rcsbull.2017.52
Worth a quick read.

Using home made eye drops is a major risk and not something that should be at all entertained by the lay person. Far, far safer to purchase eye drops specifically formulated for instillation into the eye and sterilized. Might cost a little more but eyesight is priceless so cheap by comparison.

 

[drex]

I too have macula problems and was a GP before retirement. I would never put home made drops into my eye. Totally idiotic. Risk of infection and damage to conjunctiva and cornea. Topical treatment would never reach the retina where the problem lies. Tell them a firm "no"

 

[Antipodes]

A very regular customer, who is also a friend, is suffering from macular degeneration. He has been making eye drops using manuka honey, but has discovered that 'raw' honey can be used and is obviously much cheaper. So he proposes to use my honey for making eye drops. I am rather uneasy about this but cannot really refuse to sell him my honey.

Do you know how long he has been making and using his home made manuka honey eye drops?

 

[Wilco]

I'm not against the idea of formulating the drops per se if produced properly. However the idea of a dilute honey (i.e. sugar) solution sounds like the ideal breeding ground for bacteria.

Likewise, the honey won't be doing anything for the macula degeneration. Think about it- if the dilute honey was able to permeate the cornea, through two fluid filled chambers in the eye thus getting further diluted and then reach the back of the eye to have a meaningful effect, it would have to contain some incredible effective chemical and some pharmaceutical company or other would rushed to patent it and make millions.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

The manuka myth strikes again

 

[Amari]

By the by, the British Medical Journal has weekly articles reviewing the quality of evidence for the efficacy and safety of treatments for specific conditions - last week it was 'Treatments for cough and common cold in children'. One of the very few agents shown in controlled trials to be beneficial was honey (quality of evidence: low to moderate).
"Safe treatments for bothersome symptoms include saline nasal irrigation (= saline nose drops), pasteurised honey for cough, and analgesics, but most symptoms require no interventions".
NB: honey is contraindicated for children younger than 12 months.
[Thinks, I've had a troublesome cough since Covid six weeks ago. Never thought of trying honey!]

 

[pargyle]

By the by, the British Medical Journal has weekly articles reviewing the quality of evidence for the efficacy and safety of treatments for specific conditions - last week it was 'Treatments for cough and common cold in children'. One of the very few agents shown in controlled trials to be beneficial was honey (quality of evidence: low to moderate).
"Safe treatments for bothersome symptoms include saline nasal irrigation (= saline nose drops), pasteurised honey for cough, and analgesics, but most symptoms require no interventions".
NB: honey is contraindicated for children younger than 12 months.
[Thinks, I've had a troublesome cough since Covid six weeks ago. Never thought of trying honey!]

My go to cough and cold recipe is 2 soluble paracetamol dissolved in hot water, juice of a lemon and a good dollop of honey all stirred in ... I'd recommend it - really does help ease the symptoms.

I'm sure I've posted this snippit before in here but I can't find it. My grandfather was in the army in World War 1 - he had been a bricklayer before joining up and was in the Sappers digging tunnels for the mines, the downside of that was that they were also required to 'go over the top' when the time came. Anyway, on one occasion he was shot through the right hand ... he was sent to the field hospital who patched up the wound but it turned septic, the doctors were unable to stop the infection, they had tubes in his hand draining the sepsis and they were talking about amputation of his hand and possibly part of his arm - not ideal for a right handed bricklayer after the war. A French nurse overheard and brought in some honey and applied a honey poultice to the wound. The infection cleared up and instead of losing his arm he was back at the front a couple of weeks later. Grandad's standard cure for any ailments throughout the rest of his life usually involved honey in some way or another .. he lived to 87 and was still riding a bike and climbing ladders until he was 85.;

 

[Erichalfbee]

.. he lived to 87 and was still riding a bike and climbing ladders until he was 85.;

Heavens. Does that mean I have to watch this for another 20 years?

 

[Newbeeneil]

Heavens. Does that mean I have to watch this for another 20 years?

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Dani,
Why is that person up a ladder and poking an empty decorators pole into a tree during the winter months?
I'm intrigued!!!!!!

 

[Erichalfbee]

Dani,
Why is that person up a ladder and poking an empty decorators pole into a tree during the winter months?
I'm intrigued!!!!!!

He’s trying to dislodge a broken branch before it crashes into the bathroom velux.

 

[JamezF]

He’s trying to dislodge a broken branch before it crashes into the bathroom velux.

Obviously planning to catch it with his head

James

 

[Newbeeneil]

He’s trying to dislodge a broken branch before it crashes into the bathroom velux.

Is he in hospital at present? I would have though an insurance claim for a broken Velux much more preferable to a few months in plaster or worse.
Is his life insurance up to date?

 

[judy12]

I have heard that the local cure for athlete's foot, much suffered by our farmers, is to spoon honey into your socks and don't take them off for a couple of days.

 

[JamezF]

I have heard that the local cure for athlete's foot, much suffered by our farmers, is to spoon honey into your socks and don't take them off for a couple of days.

"Fill yer boots!"

James

 

[Erichalfbee]

Is he in hospital at present? I would have though an insurance claim for a broken Velux much more preferable to a few months in plaster or worse.
Is his life insurance up to date?

God knows what’s in his head sometimes. And I thought Curly had strange ideas.

 

[Darryl]

Sutty is spot on.

One might suggest he saw his GP or an eye specialist but since he is stuffing manuka honey into his eyes by the jugful, it's doubtful he could see past the end of his nose to get there. Honey might have many medicinal properties but poking it into the eyes could be asking for trouble.

 

[Antipodes]

Manuka skin treatment cost Australia a win in a game in the last ashes series when it cured your spin bowler Moeen Ali. Ironic really that honey from a plant originally from Australia ended up doing that, but there you go.