HomCom Extractor

[SunnyRaes]

I don't suppose anyone knows if the manual (or even drill-powered) Giordan can be converted to motor afterwards?? Can't afford a motorised now, but maybe later once we've made a little money... ahem...

 

[melias]

Just posted this as a new thread and was correctly referred to this one.

I'm looking to buy a motorised extractor and have been looking at Abelo/Lyson, Thornes, and Giordan. I have 4-6 hives and and leaning towards a radial extractor.

I'd be very interested to hear of people's experiences - positive and negative... Particularly about the Abelo/lyson machines.

 

[Tom Bick]

I don't suppose anyone knows if the manual (or even drill-powered) Giordan can be converted to motor afterwards?? Can't afford a motorised now, but maybe later once we've made a little money... ahem...

They sell a motor for extractor 8-20 frame so I guess so but its priced at 380 euros

 

[SunnyRaes]

I think the manual Giordan extractor is going to come in above £500 including postage from UK suppliers (which is a shame given it's less than €400 on the Giordan website) so I'm now looking elsewhere.

I'm shying away from FleaBay.

National do a couple of interesting extractors... They've got a 4 frame tangential for £260 and a 9 frame radial for £470. Given we're less than 50 miles from National, these seem especially tempting.

Anyone got any experience of these?

We've probably got 10-15 supers to extract, which would lean me towards a radial extractor, but I'm not the one with the money. Anyone able to assist in the justification of Radial over Tangential? Are there other advantages other than accepting more frames? or are there in fact some disadvantages other than cost?

 

[domino]

I just bought a small extractor from T's. It is well made, the number of hives I have it won't be too bothersome spinning them out. If I had more hives I'd get a motor driven one, but I think that's a while off.

This is plastic, apart from strength does steel have any advantages?

 

[itma]

... Anyone able to assist in the justification of Radial over Tangential? Are there other advantages other than accepting more frames? or are there in fact some disadvantages other than cost?

You can't make a really small radial.
So small extractors are necessarily tangential.

Tangential requires turning the frames round a couple of times to fully extract.
Radial doesn't. Just one spin per hand loading, if its balanced! Massively less faffing around.
For Manley frames, you should use a radial.

But for Ling Heather honey, you need (so I'm told, never had any) to extract Tangentially.

Unless you buy a massive extractor (20 frames?), extracting big brood frames needs to be done tangentially - because they are too big to fit radially - so you need extra 'screens' to temporarily convert your radial to tangential (but such a thing can be done, and its easy - just a bit more spending!) Those same screens could also be used to spin bags of cappings.

Unless you are a real heather specialist, a larger extractor would be a radial. But if you are buying a small one, it'll have to be tangential.

 

[BeeJayBee]

But for Ling Heather honey, you need (so I'm told, never had any) to extract Tangentially.

Unless the comb/honey and extracting room are warm enough it's unlikely to extract even using a tangential, it just sits there. If the comb is too warm it can collapse when it's spun, and can tear away from the wire.

Locally, within the BKA, some extract Ling with a press or sell it as cut comb. Others leave it for the bees because they think it's too much trouble, too time consuming or too wasteful of wax, to extract. I don't know how the local commercial beekeepers extract it.

 

[jcla]

I've done two extractions borrowing a friend's Giordan driven by a drill. Worked fine, think I had to adjust the height of the cage so it didn't hit the honey, did five supers one evening this year. The main issue is that you have to hold the drill trigger. It would be nice to walk away and leave it spinning if for a few minutes if it is OSR.

 

[VEG]

. It would be nice to walk away and leave it spinning if for a few minutes if it is OSR.

Never walk away from an extractor that is in use, you will one day have a frame bust in the extractor, it makes one hell of a noise and makes the extractor bounce all over place

 

[Jimmy]

The main issue is that you have to hold the drill trigger.

?Doesn't the drill have a button to hold the trigger down? My Giordan 8 frame drill does.

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[CraigPeterkin]

Hi there,
Would it be possible for you to tell me where you saw the extractor for £150 please as I will need one next year. Many thanks