Heating honey

[Popparand]

We still have my Grandfather's Lee honey ripener... unfortunately galvanised so no longer in use... stainless versions are available.

Honey develops a much deeper flavour if ripened properly.

Yeghes da

How do you ripen honey?

 

[Finman]

How do you ripen honey?

Never heard about ripening honey?

Never heard about "to get deeper flavour" with ripening.

What I are in internet, it is a tank, with which you can jar the honey or you store the honey. What it has to do with rippening?

 

[For want of a better word]

Honey develops a much deeper flavour if ripened properly.

I thought the idea of honey ripening in essentially what is a just bottling tank was just one of those myths perpetuated by old beekeepers

Must be a matter of taste... however I once worked for a chocolate manufacturer in Croydon ( of "Poppets" fame) that also was a large tea and coffee importer.
The tea blender had an incredible pallet... he could tell the difference between the water in the Dales of Yorkshire and the Downs of Sussex ( even I could tell the difference between the water at home in Wallington ( Sutton water Co.. borehole) and the tap water of London( Straight from the Thames)

Now with honey he could tell the difference between fresh unripend stuff and the fuller flavour of the properly matured honey.

There were a number of beekeepers on the workforce ( bet a lot of sugar went out by the back door!!!)

So perhaps not a Myth? afterall... ask the Honey show judges...

Yeghes da

 

[masterBK]

I am a show judge with a very sensitive olfactory and gustatory organs and in my opinion honey doesn't ripen as such. The big advantage of leaving the honey in the bottling tank is it allows the air bubbles and any tiny bits of wax (that have come through the filters) to rise to the top where they can be dealt with.

Having said that I suppose there must be some changes with time as residual enzymes in the honey will continue to work but that will happen in the bulk storage containers and jars if the honey hasn't been heated to the point where the enzymes get denatured.

 

[Erichalfbee]

I am a show judge with a very sensitive olfactory and gustatory organs and in my opinion honey doesn't ripen as such. The big advantage of leaving the honey in the bottling tank is it allows the air bubbles and any tiny bits of wax (that have come through the filters) to rise to the top where they can be dealt with.

Having said that I suppose there must be some changes with time as residual enzymes in the honey will continue to work but that will happen in the bulk storage containers and jars if the honey hasn't been heated to the point where the enzymes get denatured.

Some honeys change completely on ripening.
I have a jar of ivy honey that some months after the crop was taken bears no resemblance to the stinky stuff the bees brought in.
Or is ripening different from aging in this respect?

 

[For want of a better word]

Some honeys change completely on ripening.
I have a jar of ivy honey that some months after the crop was taken bears no resemblance to the stinky stuff the bees brought in.
Or is ripening different from aging in this respect?

I sometime wish I could be so diplomatic... Thanks E !!!

Yeghes da

 

[Finman]

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Aging of honey depends on temperature. In 25C aroma of the honey will be changed in 3 months, and not better. Color will be more brown. It stinks clearly old honey.

In under 18C honey will be same 2 years. And so one.

Ripening before bottling... How many days or hours?

Honey ripens in the hive, and not in bottling tank.

Guys, you have so much experiences, that you should know what is the aroma of honey and what aroma comes from acing. But ripening... Never heard.

.... Grand father's ripening tank...!!! They sell ripening tanks but they look like bottling tank.

 

[Swarm]

Whats the lowest temperature successfully used to to warm honey for jarring? I reckon the lower the better but enough to flow.

Mine took a long time to go through the double strainers at room temp and that was when we were melting
Some of the honey was below 15%, I think it would still be dripping through a 200 micron.

 

[Finman]

I sometime wish I could be so diplomatic... Thanks E !!!

Yeghes da

Now you mix poo talking and diplomatic. I give to you a diploma for that.

 

[Finman]

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Put into google honey bottling tank and you get same pictures as ripening tanks.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I am a show judge with a very sensitive olfactory and gustatory organs and in my opinion honey doesn't ripen as such.

Modesty and humility being your other two outstanding traits.

 

[Popparand]

I just wanted some advice on wether it was necessary to heat honey before bottling!

 

[Finman]

I just wanted some advice on wether it was necessary to heat honey before bottling!

Only so, that it comes well out from tap.
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But as you see, those old farts are not very sure, what they are doing with their honey.

 

[Erichalfbee]

Modesty and humility being your other two outstanding traits.

I have just made a few jars of chilli jam with honey. Perhaps that might go down a storm ?

 

[For want of a better word]

Only so, that it comes well out from tap.
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But as you see, those old farts are not very sure, what they are doing with their honey.

That's ripe coming from the oldest fart of them all!!!... respect!

Yeghes da

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I have just made a few jars of chilli jam with honey. Perhaps that might go down a storm ?

Chilli and honey........hmmm, I was in conversation with a partner of the Welsh chilli company a few years ago - we shared a stall at the neath food fair and during a moment of boredom we made some chilli honey - superb, we made a tentative agreement that i could supply some honey for them to market it on their website. He never came back to me - the next year, again at the food fair, he came looking for me (we had stalls at opposite sides of the town) and explained that his brother (the culinary brains behind the business) had advised against it as, the heat of the chilli, in honey, intensifies exponentially with time. He had actually kept the sample we had made at the fair and (this was months later) the nicely hot chilli honey had changed to the devil's breath!!

 

[Beefriendly]

the nicely hot chilli honey had changed to the devil's breath!!

Which coincidentally is the name of our best selling hot chutney's....No honey involved.

 

[Erichalfbee]

Chilli and honey........hmmm, I was in conversation with a partner of the Welsh chilli company a few years ago - we shared a stall at the neath food fair and during a moment of boredom we made some chilli honey - superb, we made a tentative agreement that i could supply some honey for them to market it on their website. He never came back to me - the next year, again at the food fair, he came looking for me (we had stalls at opposite sides of the town) and explained that his brother (the culinary brains behind the business) had advised against it as, the heat of the chilli, in honey, intensifies exponentially with time. He had actually kept the sample we had made at the fair and (this was months later) the nicely hot chilli honey had changed to the devil's breath!!

I remember you saying that.
It never crossed my mind as I tipped the honey in.

 

[Frizzaldo]

This guy found a way...i hear it's nice on pizza
https ://mikeshothoney. com/