EfB

[highgate]

Evening all,

Had a Defra or NBU email telling me about efb in my area a couple of days ago.

When i did my hive inspection today I found what am hoping is funky pollen but am not sure.

Was wondering what EFB looks like?

Bees looked good and over the last couple of weeks got my first precapped super.

So either i call the NBU or put together my frames for the second super and think about buying the 3rd.

 

[maddydog]

Looks like pictures of pollen/honey/nectar? Where's the brood?

 

[highgate]

Looks like pictures of pollen/honey/nectar? Where's the brood?

Hi Maddy,

It was the layer of the grey pollen, as i thought there were no such thing as gret pollen that it may be the dead Larvae.

Am guessing grey pollen exists abd and apologies for my uber noob question. But very first hive and efb scare in my area.


Thanks

 

[Finman]

Efb, what it looks like

First alarm is that, capped brood area has much holes.

Sick larvae are collapsed in their cell. They are not fat curved ring

 

[Ian123]

The grey is blackberry pollen.

 

[Erichalfbee]

First alarm is that, capped brood area has much holes.

EFB is a disease of open brood not capped.

 

[highgate]

The grey is blackberry pollen.

That's interesting, hadn't realised that there are so many blackberry bushes in the area! Nice to learn about all the different pollen in the area.

I am looking forward to this little adventure.

 

[Finman]

EFB is a disease of open brood not capped.

But when larva dies, there is a hole instead of pupa.
It is same with chalkbrood.

 

[For want of a better word]

Looks like pictures of pollen/honey/nectar? Where's the brood?

Call the SBI if you are worried.... they do not charge and probably have the LFD test kits!

Chons da

 

[Erichalfbee]

But when larva dies, there is a hole instead of pupa.
It is same with chalkbrood.

A hole in where?

 

[Erichalfbee]

Call the SBI if you are worried.... they do not charge and probably have the LFD test kits!

Chons da

Spot on

 

[downland]

Call the SBI if you are worried.... they do not charge and probably have the LFD test kits!

Chons da

Good advice here.

 

[Beefriendly]

Based on picture seen would be a waste of Inspectors time and LFD....

 

[Show me the honey]

Based on picture seen would be a waste of Inspectors time and LFD....

Not really when I first started they contacted me just to have a look I found the day very informative and she was happy to come out I didn’t ask for it.

They would be able to take look and decide if the kit was needed and I think they would rather this than people not asking and leaving hive with disease to spread ‘the love’

 

[For want of a better word]

Originally Posted by Beefriendly View Post
Based on picture seen would be a waste of Inspectors time and LFD....

Not really when I first started they contacted me just to have a look I found the day very informative and she was happy to come out I didn’t ask for it.

They would be able to take look and decide if the kit was needed and I think they would rather this than people not asking and leaving hive with disease to spread ‘the love’

Show me the honey is SO CORRECT..... call the inspector.... Foul brood is a serious disease and trust only those trained to carry out identification.... ie your SBI
(DASH accredited Beefarmers have to report notifiable diseases by law and have to take a similar audit as the SBIs)

Chons da

 

[Beefriendly]

Not really when I first started they contacted me just to have a look I found the day very informative and she was happy to come out I didn’t ask for it.

I wouldn't disagree about the informative bit....seems like your SBI have a lot of time on their hands if they can do "social" visits...I know, because of cut backs, ours are flat out and can rarely do "social" visits. Which is why I'd want to be damn sure it was something worth their while investigating before calling them out.....on the pictures shown it seems they are simply putting honey over pollen stores, a common occurrence.

 

[birdsandbees]

A hole in where?

I think he means gaps in the brood pattern (pepper potting) rather than holes in the cappings

 

[madasafish]

I recommend "The Bee Keepers' Field Guide " by David Cramp.

Ideal for taking to the hive and lots of pictures of AFB/EFB/Sac brood,chalk brood etc to compare with what you have..
Spiral bound, waterproof pages..

 

[Finman]

I think he means gaps in the brood pattern (pepper potting) rather than holes in the cappings

I mean emty cells among capped brood cells. To me they are holes

 

[Finman]

I think he means gaps in the brood pattern (pepper potting) rather than holes in the cappings

I mean empty cells among capped broof cells. To me they are holes.

The question tells, that Eric has not seen EFB.