Cuprinol / Creosote / hive paint

[Somerford]

Dear all

I was just doing a search of past threads and found that Cuprinol has been re-formulated and is now not recommended for beehive use. I've just used up the last of my old (pre-2010) stuff and wondered what people are putting onto bare wood now ?

I don't want to paint the wood - although have no choice for polyhive jucs - what do you use guys ??

Thanks

Somerford

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

cuprinol is still OK just that thery can't sate so on the tin as they weren't prepared to pay the exorbidant fees have it re - licenced after a minor change in the constituents

 

[Somerford]

Is that the clear Cuprinol or the coloured stuff ?

 

[Swarm]

I know it applies to the clear stuff, probably both.

 

[B+.]

cuprinol is still OK just that thery can't sate so on the tin as they weren't prepared to pay the exorbidant fees have it re - licenced after a minor change in the constituents

While you are probably right, I wonder how this would be viewed by the authorities.
You can just imagine the case, can't you? Some government department visits the apiary, questions the beekeeper how he treats his hives. Then, says he's using an "unlicensed product" that is "unsafe" (i.e. unproven or unlicensed) product in association with a food producing animal (or "product of animal origin" as the official jargon refers to it).
Now, before anyone shoots me down for posing a ridiculous scenario, ask yourself, just how ridiculous is it?

The world has gone completely mad!

 

[For want of a better word]

The world has gone completely mad!


Seems so!

This government seem hell bent on setting up another raft of Quangos... as if we do not have enough!!!


Yeghes da

 

[Dave /Oscroft]

I use Ducks Back.

Dave

 

[madasafish]

5 year woodstain - water based.

sadolin quick drying woodstain

 

[Beanwood]

Well, IF it's Cuprinol Garden Shades,then it's fine - according to Cuprinol.

I phoned their customer services and asked the question just this week.

They informed me that, as long as you don't paint a hive with it whilst the bees are in residence, and give it a good long time to dry (10 hours)it will be absolutely fine.

Phone their helpline on 0333 222 7171. Very helpful.

 

[Uncle Betty]

Well, IF it's Cuprinol Garden Shades,then it's fine - according to Cuprinol.

I phoned their customer services and asked the question just this week.

They informed me that, as long as you don't paint a hive with it whilst the bees are in residence, and give it a good long time to dry (10 hours)it will be absolutely fine.

Phone their helpline on 0333 222 7171. Very helpful.

Yes, that was my experience too.

 

[MerryBee]

yes me too

To quote their reply

"[email protected]
15/05/2014

to me
Dear Mrs xxx

Thank you for your email. For the exterior of Beehives our Cuprinol Garden Shades can be used, providing the beehive is empty during application and left for a minimum of 48 hours to fully dry and cure before the bees are introduced back into the environment.
"

 

[REDWOOD]

Well, IF it's Cuprinol Garden Shades,then it's fine - according to Cuprinol.

I phoned their customer services and asked the question just this week.

They informed me that, as long as you don't paint a hive with it whilst the bees are in residence, and give it a good long time to dry (10 hours)it will be absolutely fine.

Phone their helpline on 0333 222 7171. Very helpful.

+1 if it's redwood hive parts it gets two coats of garden shades and if it's cedar it gets two coats of raw linseed oil.
Garden shades is basically a latex paint that allows the wood to breath and move with various humidity levels


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[REDWOOD]

If some official asked me what I treat the outside of my hives with I'll be asking what would you treat a black eye with [emoji4]


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[Gilberdyke John]

If some official asked me what I treat the outside of my hives with I'll be asking what would you treat a black eye with [emoji4]


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Git orf moi laand!

 

[Amari]

I don't treat my hives with anything. Is it really necessary?

 

[Little John]

Curious how much paranoia exists regarding paint - especially as some bees display a taste for it.

Here's one character from last year showing an interest in a can of xylene-based paint:

Yesterday found me painting the 8-frame National boxes I'll be running later this year:

As you can see, I'm painting the insides yellow (as it was on the brush) over white undercoat. And, as I was painting away, a Bumble flew over and head-butted my 'painting hand' several times. So I stopped ... and watched.

At first, I assumed it was the colours of the boxes which was the attraction - but, inside the end recess of the box I was working on, the undercoat had formed soft 'puddles' in the corners, and the Bumble began to excavate one of these ... so I left him (or her) to it for half an hour.

So it seems that bees might not like wet paint, and are not particularly impressed with hardened paint, but some rather like it when it's soft and chewy. I've heard of bees excavating bitumen, so I guess it's the same kind of attraction ...
LJ