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Dadnlad

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I have a plan to plant a mass of crocus bulbs near to my hive this winter to help the girls out with some early flowers. As I know next to nothing about crocuses does anyone know if there are particular varieties better for bees please ?
 
You could look to see if there are suppliers of "species" crocus bulbs, they are closer to the wild variety. I've planted a smallish area of new woodland and bought thousands of "wild" daffodils, bluebells and ransoms from a specialist grower in West Wales, the bees love them and they're seeding themselves up and down the lane.

Jan
 
You will be disappointed, as soon as crocus's ( crocii) are pollinated the flowers die! The colour won't last long but they do supply a good early crop!
 
Crocus thomasinianus is a good one for naturalising, it's one of the few that spreads freely. HOWEVER- the danger with doing something like this is that if you get a couple of weeks of bad weather, it can all go to 'waste'. One way to guard against this is by having different types- yellow varieties and blue or white varieties are bread from different species, so flower at different times.

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Cheers for the replies everyone I'll look into those. As they will be at my allotment I'm not so interested in the display, more the benefits to the bees in early spring
 
Crocus thomasinianus is a good one for naturalising, it's one of the few that spreads freely. HOWEVER- the danger with doing something like this is that if you get a couple of weeks of bad weather, it can all go to 'waste'. One way to guard against this is by having different types- yellow varieties and blue or white varieties are bread from different species, so flower at different times.
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The large flowered blue and white (and striped) ones seem to go on longest, do not seem to spread, and the bees pile into them as if there were no tomorrow. The smaller ones, more the un'improved' species ones do indeed seem to flower very ephemeraly. Wondering if the big ones are sterile and thus do not get pollinated so easily if at all.

Yellow ones, and also the yellow and brown ones, though nice to see, are a total waste of time here as the sparrows trash them, and I mean REALLY trash them.

Chionodoxas and Erythroniums (esp. sp. 'dens-canis') are much loved by the bees too.

However, for all the good these will do, for pollen long term you will be best by far taking lots of nice whips off a particulary good male pussy willow, and shoving them in the ground in lots of places in the neighbourhood. What about planting some flowering currant? They go for that big style too.
 
I did exactly the same as yourself. I did it the lazy man's way though, and went to the garden centre and bought the packs with the 'bee friendly' sticker on them :D
 
You could look to see if there are suppliers of "species" crocus bulbs, they are closer to the wild variety. I've planted a smallish area of new woodland and bought thousands of "wild" daffodils, bluebells and ransoms from a specialist grower in West Wales, the bees love them and they're seeding themselves up and down the lane.

Jan

http://www.dutchbulbs.co.uk/c-qa/large-flowering.htm?pp=9999

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http://www.dutchbulbs.co.uk/c-qb/crocus/species.htm


This is a wholesale outlet rather than the well known retail arm of the same outfit, but if you order enough they ask no questions. Service exemplary, quality of sufficient standard to be a major supplier to the trade. The range offered is considerably bigger than the retail side has.
 
I would also suggest that Snowdrops, Galanthus nivalis, give the ladies a good boost at that time of the year. Although regardless, it takes a while to get them properly established.

Good luck
 
I planted a whole load of crocuses for the bees a couple of years ago .... the squirrels really appreciated my efforts - dug up all but a handful & munched them Hope you're 'squirrel free' !!!
 
I dug up slabs of lawn, threw crocus in, chicken wired the area and threw the lawn back over. Now got loads every year, mainly blue as the birds love the yellow. And the bees use them.
Wilko's will have a great supply soon- really cheap too.
 
Any idea about wood anemones? Specifically, will the bees go for the mixed
(blanda) ones which seem quite a lot cheaper than single coloured (coronaria?) ones
 
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Got to go with ITLD on this one: pussy willow is fantastic for bees, and in my experience a bit more reliable than crocus, which tend to "fall over" pretty quickly, what with sparrows pecking them and big, queen bumblebees rummaging around in them... Likewise Mahonia is a good reliable early plant for my garden.

If it's definitely bulbs that are needed then I'd recommend a mixture, as each year seems to favour a different sort. I reckon snow crocus are the best (Crocus chrysanthus) but mine faded out this year, whereas the big purple stripey Dutch ones were OK. Chionodoxa are great but seem to always get eaten by something in my garden. For shadier areas snowdrops all seem to be good, and winter aconites and wood anemone (mine are all blue Blanda type) are also really good for pollen.

For me, though, the best early flower isn't a bulb: my bees went absolutely crazy over pulmonaria last winter, and it flowered - and was visited - without a break from the new year up until march. Even on days with frost they still pottered out to it occasionally. It's a great thing to put in a shady, sheltered area quite near to the hive.
 
I planted a whole load of crocuses for the bees a couple of years ago .... the squirrels really appreciated my efforts - dug up all but a handful & munched them Hope you're 'squirrel free' !!!

I planted 500 in an old baot and netted them agianst squirrels and 500 in a squirrel freeish place at home apiary. All, and I mean all, eaten by mice or voles. Tunnels everywhere, where none had been before:.(
 
I'm going to ask our local councillor if he thinks having a 'love where you live' bulb planting session on our street is a good idea (ie: will he donate a few quid to it).

We've got wide grass verges at this end of our street which would look lovely with spring flowers peeping out of.

I think crocus are finished by the time the mowing season starts too - so no conflicts there. I know the daffs get left for a while once mowing starts and that looks scruffy - so there won't be that problem with earlier flowerers...)
 
I planted a whole load of crocuses for the bees a couple of years ago .... the squirrels really appreciated my efforts - dug up all but a handful & munched them Hope you're 'squirrel free' !!!

We have that problem .. and mice as well.

Fine wire mesh netting buried above the bulbs helps - a lot.
 
I would try and avoid the yellow ones - the birds and rabbits saw them off in short order but they seemed to leave the purple ones alone
 
Rabbits hate purple. Well known fact.
Milka wanted rabbits to promote their chocolate Easter Bunny - but the rabbits were having none of it. Had to get a cow instead.
 
'squirrel free' !!!

Lift the sod, throw crocus bulbs down....any which way....place a single layer of chicken wire over,replace sod.
Lots of flowers the next year as squirrels can't dig them up.
I agree with others.....Willow especially Pussy is a much more valuable source of early nectar.....Alder too.
 
We planted hundreds last autumn and not a one came up, very disappointing.

PH
 

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