Communal feeding

[Poly Hive]

I don't agree no.

However I put this first. If, IF there are other bees with in three miles then yes it is a no no.

If you are sure there are not then..it works very well.

Please read the proviso before flaming.

PH

 

[Chris Luck]

I think everyone agrees that open feeding is a big no-no.

I don't agree, see my post..

http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=182100&postcount=11

Chris

 

[Finman]

If you have one sick hive, soon you have much more when you feed capping honey to the bees


The advantage is none, because bees flye and fight like mad.


If you feed honey from combs in open, bees break down cells more than they get use from honey.

100 hives is much. Do you play that with all hives. How do you manage 100 hives healthy that you may trust on it. How do you keep 100 hives in Britain that you do not have other hives nearby?

I bought a wine press that I get honey from cappings.


Yes, I have spread enough diseases with capping feeding.

I have so much experience about open feeding that it is a big nonsense.

Another disease deliverer is a wax melter.

I just told what I have screwed up. But you do as you do. Not good memories.

.

 

[greatbritishhoney]

For the sake of buying a few extra feeders, why take the risk?

 

[Finman]

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Are you alone with your hives on district?

Yes, I believed so in my many hive yards. But why virgins become mated with strange colored drones?

I was going to make a mating yard in remote place. It should be 10 kilometres radius area and no hives.
Then I stopped my car into a farm yard and strange bees came to sniff my car.
Next day it revieled that the area has at least 2 different wild hives, Carniolan and Italian. They fighted on my lure hive.

Now I have a special queen. Its mother is from Cyprus superbee and the drones are Carniolans from nowhere.

 

[mbc]

Finman, how does a wax melter spread desease ?

 

[Finman]

I feed using large open containers starting in February mainly with the previous years wax capping and residues, but also containing honey and sugar syrup. This is placed in an open sided field shelter on metal supports about 1.5 metres from the ground. Distance from nearest hives about 30 metres in all cases and it works just fine.

I also find it's an attractant, (the honey), for any Asian Hornet queens that are floating around which presents a great opportunity to kill them before they even think about setting up home.

I wouldn't do it in late summer / autumn.

Chris

you play with very high risk with diseases and with your less than 100 hives.

 

[Chris Luck]

So you say, each to their own.

Chris

 

[victor meldrew]

So you say, each to their own.

Chris

Now that really is a none answer to a valid point. Maybe you've evolved the Gallic Shrug!
VM

 

[Finman]

Finman, how does a wax melter spread desease ?

the heat is not so high that it kills the disseases. There cold spots too inside the melter, like running honey.

When you treat the machine and handle wastes, bees come to suck them. my neighbour regretted that he gets diseases from me. I too wondered why diseases bursted in my home hives.
When I stop that melting, neighbour's diseaeses stopped too.

 

[Chris Luck]

Now that really is a none answer to a valid point. Maybe you've evolved the Gallic Shrug!

Ahhh bon? Suis je bovvered?

Seriously there's no answer to such a statement - note statement. Finman apparently has had problems with his bees and disease in the past and concludes that the problem was communal feeding, I haven't had any such problems....

....and before you say it - yet, but I stopped blindly following other people a long time ago and take responsibility for my own decisions.

Chris

 

[Finman]

Finman apparently has had problems with his bees and disease in the past and concludes that the problem was communal feeding, I haven't had any such problems....

....and before you say it - yet, but I stopped blindly following other people a long time ago and take responsibility for my own decisions.

Chris

wow. This was my 49 th bee nursing summer. Yes, many problems have been.

I know much beekeepers who have never problems.

A problem is a difference between recent and wanted situation. If you try something new, you have allways problems. If you do not try anywhere, you manage with your own old knowledge.

Yes, I have still problems.


What I know beekeepers, they are the most stubborn human genotype. Beekeepers are often blind but they never follow even best advices. They just execute their stubborn existence.

 

[Chris Luck]

What I know beekeepers, they are the most stubborn human genotype. Beekeepers are often blind but they never follow even best advices. They just execute their stubborn existence.

.....and sometimes it works out just fine that way but you never know unless you put it to the test.

Chris

 

[victor meldrew]

Ahhh bon? Suis je bovvered?

Seriously there's no answer to such a statement - note statement. Finman apparently has had problems with his bees and disease in the past and concludes that the problem was communal feeding, I haven't had any such problems....

....and before you say it - yet, but I stopped blindly following other people a long time ago and take responsibility for my own decisions.

Chris

So did typhoid Mary in the states many moons ago
She personally caused multiple outbreaks of typhoid and was warn't never to take employment in the catering industry .
This she ignored and the inevitable happened !
She was imprisoned for the rest of her natural in order to protect the public !
It is possible to take bloody mindedness too far
VM

 

[Chris Luck]

End of season blues eh? It's tree felling time for me now. Oh, and some stone walling - literally.

Chris

 

[tonybloke]

End of season blues eh? It's tree felling time for me now. Oh, and some stone walling - literally.

Chris

I'd like to see some images of your stone-walling Chris, if you get a chance?

 

[victor meldrew]

End of season blues eh? It's tree felling time for me now. Oh, and some stone walling - literally.

Chris

We were staying on a farm in the lake district a good few years ago . Our vans' handbrake failed and it rolled down the yard and demolished the corner of a dry stone wall . the lass was upset ,saying "it'll be months before I can get a dry stone waller"
"No problem said my mates, we'll rebuild it"
"I don't think so" said she "It's a skilled craft"
What she didn't know was ,these volunteers had worked in the coal mine as rippers and packers , this involves building dry stone walls between the floor and roof!! No voids allowed , no bulges .
The corner was rebuilt in grand style including the gate post!
One old guy had a walking stick, which he used to poke the wall as it was being erected ,making comments such as too much loose here !. etc!
When she saw the finished job Wendy couldn't believe it " She said , you could make a fortune if you were to move up here".
VM